Re: [GnomeMeeting-devel-list] Automatic configuration with provider choice was (GM 2.0 Promotion/Marketing (was: Interest for GM 2.00))

[Peter Robinson <pbrobinson gmail com>]

On 12/14/05, Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com> wrote:
> Le mercredi 14 décembre 2005 à 13:19 +0100, CJ van den Berg a écrit :
>
> > > I would probably prefer that they give back a percentage of the new
> > > subscriptions and recharges to the project. That's what diamondcard is
> > > currently doing.
> >
> > I really doubt that this makes sense. Especially with multiple voip
> > providers. Why would a voip provider promote a product that sends
> > people off to it's competitors?
> >
> > And aside from that, none of the voip providers I've come in contact
> > with were subscription based and most of them had very small profit
> > margins on calls. What keeps the voip providers above water is hardware
> > and/or other services such as internet access. Trying to negotiate a
> > slice of their meager call profits is not going to make you popular.
> >
> > I would much prefer it if GnomeMeeting removed all provider promotion
> > code completely and support some sort of http downloadable config file
> > format instead. I'm sure it would be much easier to get voip providers
> > to recommend GnomeMeeting for use with their service that way and with
> > a mimetype setup properly it should be easy to get it to work right out
> > of the browser.
>
> Well, I do not see why I would spend time and nights, for free, to ease
> the access to one or another provider if they don't give anything in
> return.
>
> That's my principle, I don't code for free for commercial entities. And
> I do not "promote" commercial providers if I do not receive something in
> exchange. That's a way to justify the nights and week-ends I spend on
> the software instead of enjoying life with my wife.
>
> >
> > The preferential treatment of diamondcard is not good for
> > cross-promotion. (and it doesn't work properly anyway AFAICT) If fact,
>
> Nobody has ever reported a problem. What kind of problem do you have
> with them?
>
> > I find it quite odd considering that GnomeMeeting actively promotes
> > itself as a truely free (as in freedom and beer) project.
> >
>
> Diamondcard's support is historical. They were the first provider to
> have accepted to work with H.323 and bandwidth-consuming codecs like
> G.711 (and now GSM) so that it works in gnomemeeting, while all other
> providers were only supporting proprietary codecs.
>
> Things are a bit different with SIP.
>
> That's just a way to ease access to people who just want it to "work",
> without much effort. As for other providers, they just need to add the
> proxy and login/pin in the account editor.

I think we should just have a wiki where people can add a 'this
provider works with these setting' section.

P