Re: Gnome Web Plone Sprint

[Carsten Senger <senger rehfisch de>]

Murray Cumming schrieb:
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 06:15 +0100, Carsten Senger wrote:

[...]

> However, every commit that is made with an awfully vague commit message and no
> ChangeLog entry just increases my fear that this will never become less
> chaotic. I've mentioned this repeatedly. I cannot recommend that GNOME 
> uses a system that is not maintained with some discipline, and I would hope 
> that we could learn from how you are fixing these problems.
>
> For the nth time (not necessarily to you personally), please make proper 
> ChangeLog entries.
>
> For instance, this is not good enough:

[...]

Alltogether the project isn't in a good state, to say it cautious. As 
I'm only looking two day's deeper into the list, wiki and svn and only 
catched limi and Jonathan, that's certainly not fair to everybody.

But after all I've seen I'm sure the project has to move forward fast to 
keep some momentum and get in a managed state bit by bit. That needs a 
reliable team with better communication first. I found 12 people in the 
gnome and plone mailinglist archives that offerd help within the last 9 
month or so, and maybe there are some sprinters that don't appear there. 
Some of them are very experienced, if 1/3 joins in, it could work.

So your correct, there have to be better commit messages. I have the 
documentation of the code on my list and try to keep an eye on it. But 
to be frankly, it's an illusion to think we can switch into a 
transparent, enough documented development process instantly. As 
frustrating as it sounds.

So let's try to move forward to see where it get's us :-)).

..Carsten