Re: Divergences between ubuntu-l10n and gnome-i18n regarding en_GB

On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 23:20 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 22:15 +0100, David Lodge wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:14:08 +0100, Alex Hudson <home alexhudson com>  
> > wrote:
> > > While I don't like "Trash"; "Dustbin", "Rubbish", "Waste" etc. I think
> > > are actually worse - they're kinda "dirty" words. Microsoft used
> > > "Recycle bin" which doesn't have the muck connotation, but isn't quite
> > > so clear a term (presumably for both all English OSes?).
> > 
> > Microsoft only really pay lip service to UK translation - most of their  
> > apps don't have a translation and it's still the "Recycle Bin" in Windows.  
> > Mac OS X is even worse - it's still "Trash". Our friends in KDE call it  
> > the "Waste Bin". Outlook uses "Deleted Items" and "Dumpster" (the deleted  
> > item's deleted items).
> > 
> > I don't think we'll ever get a solution that'll keep everybody happy.
> > 
> > In terms of liason 'twixt the Ubuntu and Gnome lists, I don't mind doing  
> > that: I was planning to join the Ubuntu guys anyway (once I get my  
> > problems with my graphics card sorted out). I'm also on the Fedora  
> > translation list as well.
> You're a workaholic Dave ;)
> IMNSHO, "Wastebasket" is fine. It's not that good a word, but was use by
> both Apple (who seems to now prefer Trash), and Microsoft (although I
> don't know their latest quirks on the en_GB).
> For GNOME 2.18, we might want to change that.
> "Deleted Items" is obviously wrong, as Peter pointed out.
> "Rubbish bin", and the likes, as you just pointed out have a bad
> connotation.
> I've got two (maybe three) decent proposals, before people start yelling
> abuse at me. "Paper bin". Although it's not really paper we're throwing,
> Documents are usually paper-made (in real life), and we're just
> mimicking real-life. There's also "Garbage bin", which David didn't
> mention. still has a bad connotation though.
> Finally, I'll propose "Bin". It's:
>  7. Any receptacle for holding rubbish or waste, esp. waste paper; a
> waste-bin.

I completely agree with this and was going to propose this before I saw
Bastien's mail, damn you Bastien for beating me to it :P

In every day to day life, I use "bin":
	- Where's the bin
	- Throw it in the bin
	- Do you have a bin liner?
	- Can you empty the bins?
	- Where did you put the wheelie bin?

And so on.

If I am feeling upper class, I might occasionally use Dustbin :)


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