Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

[Ross Martinek <ross triarius net>]

Thank you, Cliff.

Some folks just don’t  understand that fiddling with a program is the way to learn it. Oh, sure, the for 
profit software can afford to hand the user a “how to” manual of greater or lesser worth. Not so with Gimp. 
This is a place to ask questions and get answers, not a place to berate and abuse the UNPAID developers, as 
someone (who shall remain forever nameless) has recently done. If you want a piece of software that will lead 
you by the hand through everything you want to do, BUY one, hope they wrote a decent manual, and RTFM. If you 
would prefer to use a freeware program like Gimp, fiddle, learn, ask questions, and file bug reports. Don’t 
abuse the programmers or the program. It may distract them, and annoys those of us who are trying to get 
something done, but are willing to help as we can.

And if the newer versions don’t work the way you like, use an older version. I’m still using Gimp 2.8.18—I 
understand how the things I need to do work, and working to a large product deadline is NOT a time to learn 
new, or revised technology. The best tool for the job is the one you know how to use.

Ross


> On Oct 19, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list gnome org> wrote:
>
> The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause is
> people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own
> satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and I've
> been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As far as I
> can recall the issue was that the users were trying to change things in two
> places, in the on screen editor, and in the tool options. Changes in the on
> screen editor only apply to that box. Changes to the tool options apply to
> either the current box or the next box created. Changes to the current box
> are never (so far as I can make out) applied to the tool options. There is
> no hidden default. The tool options can be changed and are saved between
> sessions and the next time you open GIMP they will be the same as they were
> when you last shut down.
>
> Cliff
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 11:20 PM Ofnuts via gimp-user-list <
> gimp-user-list gnome org> wrote:
>
> > On 19/10/2021 07:36, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > It has been described on the mailing list about ten times, and it keeps
> > > falling on deaf ear.  Try using it and see for yourself how it keeps
> > > defaulting to size 64 fonts and you can't force it to change accept by
> > > luck and seridipity.
> >
> >
> > Uh? To change the default font size, you change it in the tool options,
> > and then have the tool options saved in Preferences (for which there are
> > basically two strategies, saved options each time when you exit, or save
> > options once for all). You can also use tool presets...
> >
> > Otherwise, "described in the mailing list" isn't the same as "reported
> > in the bug tracker".
> >
> >
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