Re: [Gimp-developer] wtf with the download?

[C R <cajhne gmail com>]

There seems to be enough interest in making a change of some sort to the
Windows page. I will do a few mockups with different options, then pending
any revisions, will provide a patch for the ver we agree on.

Thanks to everyone for input and patience.

-C

On 8 May 2015 01:17, "Michael Schumacher" <schumaml gmx de> wrote:
> On 05/07/2015 09:39 PM, C R wrote:
> > > Yes, and to also force Bittorrent knowledge upon users.
> >
> > If I were a new user, I'd Google "torrent" and immediately get links for
> > Pirate Bay and other dodgy stuff... nothing having to do with GIMP.
>
> Exactly.
>
> The torrent files for GIMP are there to explicitly provide
> examples that are different to e.g. movie downloads - to make sure that
> this download method is not inherently linked to those.
>
> > Thought we were trying to prevent people from going to 3rd party
> > websites and downloading viruses accidentally. Having to install a
> > 3rd party downloader just to install GIMP is a pretty big hurdle for
> > a lot of people, and they are likely to encounter lots of dangerous
> > DOWNLOAD NOW buttons. ;) It takes trust in two different software
> > packages just to install one program.
>
> Yes, this is a problem - and the current way of linking the Wikipedia
> Bittorrent clients list is not as good as linking one particular safe
> client for the current platform.
>
> For example, I pondered to go for Deluge for Windows, but didn't want to
> remove people's choices in favor of my own personal preference - but if
> there is some general agreement on good client options, we may link them
> directly.
>
> > I guess I'd ask: Is it more important to enlighten people (and are we
> > really doing that, or just scaring them off, or needlessly endangering
> > them?) about torrents, or is it more important to make the installation
of
> > GIMP as easy and enjoyable as possible?
>
> > I suggest a few buttons with gimp icons, themed for the current gimp
page,
> > and table-formatted along with some text explaining what the options
> > actually do, so you don't have to guess.
>
> > Maybe a link to torrent tutorials /help files if the user wants to
> > enlighten themselves, and we should say right away why torrents help
us, so
> > the user can make an informed choice.
>
> Not sure if we need graphical buttons for that, though, links should do
> just fine and end the impatient ones' hunt for the magical "Download"
word.
> > Well, I've been an ass, been diplomatic... now I'm thinking of being
lazy.
> > Anyone wants graphics, let me know. I'm glad to help.
>
> You could also try to provide the patch for the HTML parts - these are
> in Git, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-web/tree/downloads
> - the file name per platform should be obvious, and the HTML is rather
> straightforward.
>
>
> P.S. can you make your mail client reply to the list directly, instead
> of cc'ing it?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Michael
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