Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

[Hashem Nasarat <hnasarat gmail com>]

True, it's good to be forward-thinking; still, radical love is more
needed than radical hate.
I don't think you're advocating outright bigotry, but you're advocating
what the status quo is -- non-radical -- that is, the unchecked
allowance for privileged groups to espouse their views regardless of the
impact on others.

On 05/11/2013 04:44 AM, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Michael Hill <mdhillca gmail com> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Tristan Van Berkom <tvb gnome org> wrote:
> >
> > > People have common sense, they know that since we are at the zoo,
> > > there actually are monkeys to go see.
> > Tristan, your analogy should have been based on a word whose
> > legitimate use did *not* precede its use as an epithet. If the
> > original authors of the software knew the meaning of the word and
> > chose it anyway, who am I to excuse the name as anything better than
> > an unfortunate choice?
> >
> > I agree with you about not getting carried away. However, in light of
> > the fact that the target group of the slur is one of the target groups
> > for GNOME, your defense seems misplaced.
> Alright, I suppose I can afford to write one last email.
>
> Many may look at my arguments and think that I am somehow
> promoting bigotry (although I doubt that most of you do see it
> this way)... this seems to always be the case whenever someone
> stands up for freedom of expression.
>
> So let me explain just a little, I did not jump into this debate to
> defend the term "GIMPNet" itself, but rather in an attempt to
> defend our position regarding freedom of expression, a defence
> which is always risky and racy, and an argument that is too
> seldom made.
>
> What the people who make up the GNOME community have in
> common is a beautiful thing, Free Software.
>
> Whether we do it for the freedom of users, or whether it be for the
> sake of writing software in public, sharing knowledge and
> consequently producing better, more stable/reliable software than
> software written in the confines of a lab/company, we are in this way
> forward/radical thinkers.
>
> What I'm getting at here, is that the very thing which brings us all
> together is an idea which goes against the grain. In a way, we are
> all revolutionaries of sorts to be partaking in this venture.
>
> Over the past decade, I've seen this community grow more stiff,
> more rigid and more conservative in what we deem 'acceptable'
> in public. This saddens me greatly.
>
> It is very difficult to express radical thinking, forward thinking in
> ways which are perfectly politically correct (possible, but difficult),
> and what I think is so beautiful about our community is exactly
> this forward radical thinking, this rebellious ideal of Free Software
> which brings us all together is what makes our community so
> vibrant and great.
>
> I just think that, in general, if we want our community to flourish
> and grow and thrive, we need to be more accepting, not more
> restrictive, about what we think is acceptable in public.
>
> Imagine how many radical/racy/forward thinking blog posts we've
> missed out on, just because the author thought it might be too difficult
> to express their ideas in a way that is perfectly "politically correct" ?
>
> Best Regards,
>     -Tristan
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