Re: GNOME Speaker Guidelines

[Stone Mirror <lefty shugendo org>]

Again, very well said, and I couldn't agree more. Thank you, Alan.

It honestly baffles me that some people seem to have such difficulty grasping what seems so transparently obvious to me. Maybe it's the training that every single Apple employee was required to take. They "got" this stuff twenty years ago.

_Thirty_ percent of the engineering team I managed at Apple were women.

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On Jun 26, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Alan Cox <alan lxorguk ukuu org uk> wrote:

>> minorities have not had a large role in free software community.  So that
>> joke might have worked with a lot of people back then but not so much now.
>> Since you're a celebrity people are willing to probably overlook such
>> things that might normally offend them.  Of course the opposite is true as
>> well, because you're a celebrity people might be even more offended
>> depending on how sensitive they feel your role is.
> 
> Worse unfortunately, because he is a celebrity people will copy what he
> does and think its 'cool'. Which when it comes to sexist jokes is not
> what the free software community needs.
> 
> Richard, remember the freedom to modify code requires the knowledge to do
> it - which is something you mostly learn and share within that community
> by being part of it. Driving half of the human race out of that community
> though behaviour they find obnoxious and threatening isn't just a matter
> of poor taste, its a direct attack on the very freedoms the FSF and GPL
> are meant to be about. It's not a question of what the law permits but
> what is ethically right. Is it ethically right for the leader of the free
> software movement to drive people away from free software ?
> 
> We want to replace the proprietary software world with free software for
> all, not for mostly male, thick skinned folks because everyone else feels
> unwelcome and threatened - whether for cultural or other reasons.
> 
> Alan
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