Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga and x264 in Debian main (was Re: Trunk: OPAL Fax problem)

Matthias Schneider wrote:
Quoting Luca Capello <luca pca it>:

Hi there!

On Thu, 08 May 2008 11:47:38 +0200, Damien Sandras wrote:
Le jeudi 08 mai 2008 à 11:45 +0200, Torsten Schlabach a écrit :
Gismo / Luca wrote:

If ekiga build-depends on
x264 (which, BTW, is *still* not present as a Debian package, neither in
non-free), ekiga itself will have to be put in non-free, which is
something I won't prefer.
No, we don't want that I think.
It is a pwlib plugin, so it can be packaged separately, and that
specific plugin can be put in non-free.
Isn't instead an OPAL dependency?  However, this won't solve anything,
as far as I understood Matthias at [1].  But as a disclaimer, I haven't
checked ekiga trunk lately.

Please re-read the definition of the Debian categories [2]: a Debian
package to be in main (thus distributed with official CDs) must
build-depend only on software present in main.

This means that if opal build-depends on x264 (which is, let's say, in
non-free), then opal cannot be part of main.  My previous statement that
in this case opal (well, I wrote ekiga...) has to be put in non-free is
wrong: opal can go into contrib, since opal itself is a "free package
which requires [...]  a non-free package for compilation".  As a result,
ekiga has to be put in contrib, since ekiga build-depends on opal, which
isn't in main.

This situation will slow ekiga adoption, which is something I don't want
to see.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


Sorry, forgot to send the following mail to the list...:
About the packages issue, I suppose that there should be packages like this:
opal includes h.261 & theora or depends opal-h261 & oapl-theora
opal-h263p depends libavcodec
opal-mpeg4 depends libavcodec
opal-h264 depends libavcodec & libx264
opal / opal-theora depends libtheora

ekiga/opal recommends opal-h263p, mpeg4, x264

The opal-x packages can have different states on ubuntu or debian, whether there
is a non-free or whatever repository or some unofficial add-on repository...


I am doing the proposed modifications, thanks for the idea.

1. I grouped all libpt-snapshot-plugins-* packages into one package, libpt-snapshot-plugins.

2. Does opal, which is a library, depend on libspeex, or ekiga?

3. For opal, I see the following video codecs:
total 776
-rw-r--r-- 1 dedu 344240 May 17 22:16
-rw-r--r-- 1 dedu 107144 May 17 22:16
-rw-r--r-- 1 dedu  63000 May 17 22:16
-rw-r--r-- 1 dedu  79352 May 17 22:16
-rwxr-xr-x 1 dedu  40168 May 17 22:16 h264_video_pwplugin_helper
-rw-r--r-- 1 dedu  81624 May 17 22:16
-rw-r--r-- 1 dedu  65088 May 17 22:16

Should both h263-1998 and h263-ffmpeg be put in the opal-h263 package? What's the difference between them? Is there one better than another, and the other can be removed?

Also, is the h264_video_pwplugin_helper file useful or is a packaging error?

Finally, is it possible to compile h264 only? If yes, what is the ./configure or ./ command line? I will look myself too, but if you already know the answer, please tell me.


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