Re: Non-transparent <textbox> background for custom shapes - possible?

[Andrey Repin <anrdaemon freemail ru>]

Greetings, Hans Breuer!

> > > > HB>   But if you want an opaque textbox with shapes - like the draw background
> > > > HB>   option of Standard - Text - that's indeed not possible with resize="no".
> > > >
> > > > :/ That not sounds very good.
> > > > Should I add it as an enhancement request to the tracker?
> > > Feel free. However I do not have a good idea yet, how to add this to the
> > > custom shape properties without breaking backward compatibility. The "draw
> > > background" option is already used there to decide about 'normal' filling.
> >
> > If you ask me, I don't want a separate background color for a textbox.
> > May be different opacity, if I may.
> Given that color and opacity are stored together, that would result in the 
> same issue. But maybe just one new property textbox-backgound could be 
> added. And the default would be completely transparent.
> Thus it would not change the appearance of diagrams not having it.

Well, I think it'd be better to extend Dia shape structure to allow actual
sub-shapes. Then the question would not arise again.

> > And I don't understand your concerns about backward compatibility. You're
> > using XML, after all...
> >
> > <textbox .... fill="yes/no" svg:style="fill-opacity: 192;"/>
> >
> > would produce desired results in versions supporting the attribute, and would
> > just draw what it understand on versions that do not.
> That was not the point.

Given the fact you mentioned above, I understand that.

> If I only have one switch namely "draw background" 
> how is it supposed to toggle four possible states?
>   - only stroke, no fill
>   - stroke and fill
> both with or without drawing the text background?

Text labels in Dia don't have stroke, do they? *running to check* No, they don't.
If i'm not mistaken, the intended job of textbox is to provide a shortcut for
a user to label his/her shapes without additional work of placing text labels
on them manually.
So, to me the answer is obvious. Only fill, no stroke.
And I don't think it is need a separate toggle for "draw textbox background",
unless someone could provide a good use case to oppose my opinion.
Either way you take, it must support the svg:style attribute, if we look at
diagram in context of SVG export.

> > BTW, another issue with custom shape textbox, it's not possible to define
> > default color value for it's text (I mean, inside Dia - double-clicking the
> > shape on palette), although you can still change it once the shape is placed.
> > Seems rather counter-intuitive to me.
> Yes, fixed by: 
> http://git.gnome.org/browse/dia/commit/?id=4e5dddbad16c901492fb2f0e2921d65766741d98

Neat, thanks. Now, to find a way to compile it under windows >.>

An unrelated question, any news on text selection/copying?
Last I've heard, it doesn't work under both Windows and Linux.
(Pasting is apparently functional, although only using Ctrl+V,
ignoring other standard key combination.)


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WBR,
Andrey Repin (anrdaemon freemail ru) 12.09.2011, <05:33>

Sorry for my terrible english...