Re: gnome2 and gnome3: strategy of coexisting

[Sergey Udaltsov <sergey udaltsov gmail com>]

Here you got me confused a bit. Does that mean that components used
both in "gnome3" and
"gnome3 classic" should be able to behave differently depending on how
they are used?

>From my perspective, I am asking about gnome-settings-daemon. The tiny
bit of gnome that I maintain (kbd indicator) is implemented as
GtkStatusIcon in gnome2. For proper gnome3 integration, I have to do
some work to integrate it into gnome-shell. What about "gnome3
classic" mode? Should I maintain two variants?

I do not think this is the only example of situation when the system
components would behave differently depending on whether they are run
within full or classic gnome3. Was that discussed before?

And anyway, gnome3 in classic mode is not the same thing as gnome2.
The user experience would be as close as possible - but not the same,
I suspect. And, what's worse, I do not expect the same the stability
as gnome2 provides these days. So the possibility to have real gnome2
would be attractive for some while, I guess...

But, you actually answered that question already. I can dislike your
answer, but perhaps it is a bit too late to express concerns.
Translating from Russian: too late for the mineral water, the liver is
already gone.

Sergey

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 22:37 +0100, Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
>> Thanks for the answer. So, does that mean we directly or indirectly
>> recommend to distromakers NOT to allow users to choose between gnome2
>> ("real", not "(panel + nautilus)/gnome3") and gnome3 sessions? Does
>> that mean we recommend not to bother creating two sets of packages? Or
>> we are just neutral and do not care (and we do not help)?
>
> I think it was pretty clear from the start that we were going to carry,
> for a little while at least, 2 experiences. There will be the GNOME 3
> experience, with the new gnome-shell, control-center, and changes to
> core desktop, and there will be a "classic" experience, which would use
> the same core components, but with the panel and metacity instead of the
> shell.
>
> In the long run, the classic view will go, but the main point is that
> this experience, while it exists, will be based on the same technology
> as the rest of GNOME 3.
>
> So there shouldn't be any need to ship a GNOME 2.x panel, nautilus, or
> whatever else core component. The applications should carry on working
> if the distributors ship with the older versions of the libraries.
>
>