Re: Module proposal: Empathy for GNOME 2.22

[Mikael Hallendal <micke imendio com>]

24 sep 2007 kl. 10.54 skrev Ali Sabil:

Hi,

So I planned to reply to this thread later today but this kind of mud  
slinging forced me to do so earlier (will try to reply on the subject  
at hand later though).

> On 9/24/07, Jason D. Clinton <me jasonclinton com> wrote:
> > The critical difference in that analogy is that the thousands and
> > thousands of man-hours spent on Gecko are reused in the
> > Gnome-ification called Epiphany. As Empathy is proposed, all the work
> > in protocol implementation that has come before in the form of Ekiga
> > and Pidgin appears to be thrown out the window.
>
> I guess you never really used Ekiga? did you?
>
> Ekiga is nowhere near user friendly, am not even sure it is HIG
> compliant. It doesn't have any ICE support last time I checked, which
> in other words means that it will never work reliably in a
> NATed/Firewalled environment (which let me remind you is the most
> common case with the proliferation of home routers).

Please keep the focus on Empathy and avoid trashing other projects.  
Focus on why Empathy is better rather than how other projects are  
worse. If you really care about getting Empathy into the GNOME  
Desktop you shouldn't alienate GNOME Developers and Users this way.

It is especially important in topics such as this to stay on topic,  
this proposal is already somewhat
infectious as it talks about replacing existing GNOME Desktop  
applications.

Also please compare existing features and not potential future ones  
based on the assumption that one project will implement them and  
another won't move.

Best Regards,
  Mikael Hallendal
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