Re: [Banshee-List] Mockup for Banshee 2.0 toolbar.

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I think that works better for keeping the common buttons and info on the 
left-hand side, but I'm still not convinced about such a long search 
bar. You used iTunes as an example, but it only takes up around a third 
of the space at most. IMO then Media Player is possibly one of the worst 
examples of UI for a media player that you could come up with - I always 
hated it, and not just because it was completely non-standard.

Maybe if you dropped the Fullscreen button or removed the text, did 
something to compact the "repeat" button (not quite sure what at the 
moment - perhaps an icon like some MP3 players have?), and remove 
whatever the "Simplify" button is (I've not got it in 1.9.0) then you'd 
have enough space to put the slider between the album and the buttons on 
the right. It'd give it about 1/3 of the space, like iTunes, which would 
benefit those with what is probably the minority use case (films and 
audio books) but not be too large for those with the majority use case 
(MP3s/music).

I did also wonder about increasing the size of the album art slightly 
and moving the slider under the title and artists, but that would leave 
you with as fat a bar as if you left it where it is.

On 14/12/10 18:38, Matt Sturgeon wrote:
> I always got on better with the slider in fullscreen mode. Never worked
> out exactly why, other than its larger, and you have more control.
> ESPECIALLY if its long content - like a DVD - your watching/listening
> to... Compared to the 4 minute tracks mentioned earlier, a 1 to 3 hour
> DVD/Movie isn't going to seek well with, say, 3 centimetres of
> control...
>
> Anyway, check out mockup 3 [http://www.kicks.co.cc/banshee-mockup] and
> also see the (really) quick GTK mockup I put to gether in Glade
> (attached, and coming to the mockup page soon).
>
> On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 12:19 -0600, Alex wrote:
> > @ Samuel
> >
> > If you seek often, (like I do with audio books news podcasts) then you
> > know that the small slider is a pain because a small distance on the
> > slider is many minutes of play time.  What that means is one can never
> > get to the exact time one wants to be at on such a small slider.  Yes,
> > you can manually expand the slider, but then all the track information
> > at the top is completely unreadable.  With that in mind, having to
> > make slightly larger motion with the mouse seems to be a non issue in
> > my opinion.  I for one am more than happy to make a slightly larger
> > motion with the mouse if it means that I can easily get to the exact
> > play-time I'm looking for.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Matt Sturgeon<mttza1 gmail com>
> > wrote:
> >          I think the point of the mockups is to create a better user
> >          feel/ux by
> >          a) adding a few extra pixels to the browser/main-section
> >          vertically
> >          (removing the status bar), b) moving the controls to one
> >          toolbar and c)
> >          making room for a wider seek slider and following a design
> >          more
> >          intuitive for new users from both Mac and Windows. see
> >          attached
> >          screenshots.
> >
> >
> >          On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:47 +0100, Bertrand Lorentz wrote:
> >          >  On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Matt Sturgeon
> >          <mttza1 gmail com>  wrote:
> >          >  >  Ok, sorry - the emails still arnt going through - im going
> >          to host a
> >          >  >  page on my website. The page is located here:
> >          >  >  http://www.kicks.co.cc/banshee-mockup/
> >          >
> >          >  Thanks, I was just going to suggest you to do just that ;)
> >          >  And thanks also for all those mockups !
> >          >
> >          >  I would be interested in hearing more about the UI/UX
> >          problem(s)
> >          >  you're trying to solve here, and about the improvements
> >          those changes
> >          >  bring to the user.
> >          >
> >          >  If one of those is about having a wider seek slider, I'd
> >          like to hear
> >          >  why you feel this is necessary.
> >          >  With the current layout (1.9.0 and above), a slider that is
> >          about 250
> >          >  pixels wide fits comfortably on my 1280px wide screen. And
> >          that gives
> >          >  you about 1 pixel per second for your average 4 minutes
> >          song. And
> >          >  anyway, I rarely rewind or skip forward, and if I do, it's
> >          more like
> >          >  "let's go back near the start" or "let's skip the slow start
> >          of that
> >          >  song and go somewhere in the middle".
> >          >  For the other, less frequent, use cases, like precision
> >          seeking in an
> >          >  hour long podcast, I think those should be handled through
> >          the "Seek
> >          >  to" dialog or bookmarks, maybe with additional refinements
> >          to these
> >          >  features.
> >          >  (Yes, the "Seek to" dialog was a bit broken in 1.9.0, it's
> >          fixed in git master).
> >          >
> >
> >
> >
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