Re: [orca-list] Gnome 42

[José Vilmar Estácio de Souza <vilmar informal com br>]

Hi.
I am receiving the following error when I try to execute gnome-contacts:
(gnome-contacts:53519): Gtk-ERROR **: 16:34:26.012: GTK 2/3 symbols 
detected. Using GTK 2/3 and GTK 4 in the same process is not supported

On 4/8/22 09:25, Peter Vágner via orca-list wrote:
> Hello,
> Finally I have figured out that gtk4 apps crashing right after 
> launching them was my local issue. Once I have rebuilt orca it has 
> started to work the way I expect it to.
> Presentation of all QT4 Vidgets is very unique since the key used to 
> activate and the non localized role derived from the class name is 
> spoken with each control but at least it's usable to an extend.
> Once I have managed to get gnome-control-center to work I am impressed 
> that it is much more usable with the keyboard than it used to be. Some 
> buttons are not clearly labelled but almost everything is accessible 
> by using the keyboard alone including managing network connections 
> VPNs, keyboard shortcuts and similar.
> Greetings
> Peter
>
>
>
> Dňa 8. 4. 2022 o 12:00 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
> > Hello,
> > I have found out gnome-calculator is also a GT4 app and this one is 
> > working although flat review is not working with all GTK4 apps.
> > gnome-control-center, gnome-text editor, fractal all of these are 
> > crashing for me at startup.
> > gnome-contacts is also GTK4 app. This one is working but breaks flat 
> > review.
> > When running gnome-contacts in a terminal, this is what I am getting...
> > (gnome-contacts:60160): Gtk-WARNING **: 11:52:58.077: Screen 
> > coordinates not supported, reported positions will be wrong
> > GTK4 accessibility is really implemented different to GTK3. When new 
> > button in the contacts app receives the focus, orca is reporting...
> > GTK Image <space> Creates new contact
> > Please can you try to verify at least some of these?
> > Is something out of these tracked somewhere?
> > The conclusion is that GTK4 and wayland have major accessibility 
> > implications for us and we either have to keep using outdated 
> > versions or finally start moving elsewhere. We can run mate, xfce, 
> > ratpoison whatever with curated selection of apps but the trend is 
> > there and we as a community can do nothing about it.
> > Greetings
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > Dňa 7. 4. 2022 o 22:47 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
> > > Hello,
> > > I apologize, I have mixed the numbers. I wanted to say Arch linux 
> > > features gnome 42 and I have problems with all the GTK 4 apps when 
> > > using them on gnome 42.
> > > If you can, it would be great to reproduce what I am seeing.
> > > Greetings
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > > Dňa 7. 4. 2022 o 22:20 Peter Vágner via orca-list napísal(a):
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Arch linux now includes gnome 44 packages. After updating my system 
> > > > to gnome 44, I am still experiencing an issue where every GTK4 app 
> > > > I try to start exits with a segmentation fault and I don't know how 
> > > > to debug it. Unfortunatelly this also includes gnome control center 
> > > > known as settings.
> > > > Have you also updated and can you reproduce this?
> > > > Greetings
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > GNOME Universal Access guide: 
> > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > >
> > >
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> > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > GNOME Universal Access guide: 
> > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> >
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> > GNOME Universal Access guide: 
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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