Re: [orca-list] Option to turn off auto-focus mode for native navigation (was Re: Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox)

[<chaltain gmail com>]

Yes, F6 and Shift+F6combined with tab and shift+tab seem to get me to all of
the panels in Firefox.

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Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> On Behalf Of Joanmarie Diggs
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 8:05 AM
> To: Ishe Chinyoka <chinyoka consultant gmail com>
> Cc: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Option to turn off auto-focus mode for native
navigation
> (was Re: Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox)
>
> Hi Ishe.
>
> I don't have that add-on, but normally Firefox's keystroke F6 moves
amongst
> panels and similar containers.
>
> --joanie
>
> On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 13:03 +0200, Ishe Chinyoka wrote:
> > Hi Joanie,
> >
> > Thanks for the update. I just pulled it and I can confirm that at
> > least this is what I had been waiting for: the ability to turn off
> > autofocus in every page. The new option of "Turn Off Focus in Native"
> > seems to have done the trick. Thanks.
> >
> >
> > By the way, how do we access sidebar items in Firefox? That seems to
> > elude me: I would like to access my tweets that are posted in the
> > Twitter add-on in Firefox.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ishe
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, 19 August 2020, at 12:26, Joanmarie Diggs <
> > jdiggs igalia com> wrote:
> > > Hey Rastislav and all.
> > >
> > > Comments inline below.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 16:48 +0200, Rastislav Kish via orca-list
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > As for the disabling of autofocus, I would like to disable this
> > > > functionality completely, so Orca doesn't switch between modes
> > > > under any circumstances, even after page load or refresh.
> > >
> > > "Any circumstances" is hard. But I just added a new option to Orca
> > > master which will attempts to do this for "native" navigation which
> > > right now means "anything which is not caret navigation or
> > > structural navigation" (so Tab, page load, etc.). Hopefully it will
> > > make things better.
> > >
> > > >  The problem with
> > > > automatic focusing is, that it's quite unpredictable, in all
> > > > screenreaders. On some sites it works, on some not, and because
> > > > many times I don't even want to write anything, I often find
> > > > myself in fight with switching of modes before I'm able to do what
> > > > I want. As I said, this is not just problem of Orca, but also
> > > > Jaws, NVDA and other screenreaders, that's the reason why I
> > > > usually turn auto focusing completely off.
> > >
> > > For those instances where Orca does something unpredictable it would
> > > be helpful to know. It could be the browser and/or author doing
> > > something bad. Then again, it could be an Orca bug. Then again, it
> > > could be an Orca feature that is not working the way you want. If
> > > the issue is on the side of Orca, and we all agree what the desired
> > > behavior is, I can of course fix/change Orca -- as long as I know
> > > about the issue and can experience it myself. :)
> > >
> > > Thanks for the answers and feedback, and please let me know how the
> > > new feature works for you.
> > >
> > > --joanie
> > >
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