Re: [orca-list] Option to turn off auto-focus mode for native navigation (was Re: Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox)



Hi Ishe.

I don't have that add-on, but normally Firefox's keystroke F6 moves
amongst panels and similar containers.

--joanie

On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 13:03 +0200, Ishe Chinyoka wrote:
Hi Joanie,

Thanks for the update. I just pulled it and I can confirm that at
least
this is what I had been waiting for: the ability to turn off
autofocus
in every page. The new option of "Turn Off Focus in Native" seems to
have done the trick. Thanks.


By the way, how do we access sidebar items in Firefox? That seems to
elude me: I would like to access my tweets that are posted in the
Twitter add-on in Firefox.

Regards,

Ishe


On Wednesday, 19 August 2020, at 12:26, Joanmarie Diggs <
jdiggs igalia com> wrote:
Hey Rastislav and all.

Comments inline below.

On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 16:48 +0200, Rastislav Kish via orca-list
wrote:

As for the disabling of autofocus, I would like to disable this 
functionality completely, so Orca doesn't switch between modes
under
any 
circumstances, even after page load or refresh.

"Any circumstances" is hard. But I just added a new option to Orca
master which will attempts to do this for "native" navigation which
right now means "anything which is not caret navigation or
structural
navigation" (so Tab, page load, etc.). Hopefully it will make
things
better.

 The problem with 
automatic focusing is, that it's quite unpredictable, in all 
screenreaders. On some sites it works, on some not, and because
many 
times I don't even want to write anything, I often find myself in
fight 
with switching of modes before I'm able to do what I want. As I
said, 
this is not just problem of Orca, but also Jaws, NVDA and other 
screenreaders, that's the reason why I usually turn auto
focusing 
completely off.

For those instances where Orca does something unpredictable it
would be
helpful to know. It could be the browser and/or author doing
something
bad. Then again, it could be an Orca bug. Then again, it could be
an
Orca feature that is not working the way you want. If the issue is
on
the side of Orca, and we all agree what the desired behavior is, I
can
of course fix/change Orca -- as long as I know about the issue and
can
experience it myself. :)

Thanks for the answers and feedback, and please let me know how the
new
feature works for you.

--joanie

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