Re: [orca-list] Free software contributions

[Fernando Botelho <Fernando Botelho F123 org>]

That is a good point Chrys,

The problem is that both Hypra and F123 are worried, among other things, 
with getting more persons with disabilities to use free and open source 
software and this has at time meant combining FOSS with proprietary 
parts such as certain synthesizers.

We can occasionally talk about such things here in the Orca list, but in 
other places we would have to waste a lot of time with discussions about 
what is pure and allowed, and what is not. As a result, we need to stay 
away from certain places to save time and actually get work done.

This is not a criticism of anyone, just an explanation. Since I know 
there is likely to be some over-reactions, let me just say that I wish 
everyone a lovely accessible weekend, and this is it for me as far as 
this thread goes.

Fernando


On 04/14/2018 05:29 AM, chrys wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> this is is showing in a good way that nobody is knowing who is working 
> and on what is she/he working. This makes collaboration very hard and 
> also its frustrating for everybody in same time because there is no 
> collaboration or feedback.
> that was the initial idea of the linux-a11y.org project and the 
> mumble/irc infra but its sadly not as much used as it should be. i 
> think more working together would improve the motivation and the 
> success of all projects.  think we need to wire up a good team with 
> helping each other. for sure there would be more contribution if there 
> would be a way to get knowledge and feedback more easy. everybody is 
> cooking in its small kitchen and wonders why nobody tasts the food or 
> come in to help cutting onions.
> i read a lot of names again and again. fore sure an a11y team could be 
> formed and would have an more great success.
>
>
> just my 2 cents.
>
> cheers chrys
> Am 13.04.2018 um 20:04 schrieb Fernando Botelho:
> > Hey Alex,
> >
> > Compiz Fusion, the magnification technology you guys use on Hypra, 
> > was originally given cursor tracking by an F123 supported developer.
> >
> > Various issues on GTK Toolkit were fixed with our help as well. You 
> > can search on the archive of this list.
> >
> > You will also find us on a press release from the Gnome Foundation, 
> > and in other places.
> >
> > Recent improvements to eSpeak-NG and also MBROLA ARM installation, 
> > and more.
> >
> > Since so little is received in support, I was not expecting the tone 
> > in your message. We certainly wish we had been able to do more, and 
> > plan to do more moving forward, but with an attitude of partnership.
> >
> > Fernando
> >
> >
> > On 04/13/2018 11:29 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> > > Le 13/04/2018 à 16:16, Fernando Botelho a écrit :
> > > > Just FYI: F123 is still contributing to accessibility work, as it 
> > > > has for the last 10 years or so.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Our most recent work has to do with the usability of the Raspberry 
> > > > Pi and Fenrir, for example:
> > > >
> > > > https://public.F123.org/guide.html
> > >
> > > Thank you Fernando for sharing this with us.
> > >
> > > I'm so sorry but I don't understand what is the upstream 
> > > contributions of F123 on Mate, LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, 
> > > screen magnifier, PulseAudio or other big software?
> > > They are the mostly used software in France on GNU/Linux for 
> > > visual-impaired and elderly people. Is it different in your country?
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > > Alex.
> >
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