Hi,
Samuel has been working on accessibility in free software for a
long, and it is a charm! His role in our struggle for an accessible
free software is critical and major.
Just the work he has been doing since Semtember is due to the fact
Hypra pays for it. Just like Hypra pays Alex to test and improve
accessibility in software (low-vision, but also Orca).
Also, the fact Hypra pays Samuel il important to know because it
enables us to give him priorities. That is why he worked on Firefox,
because we decided it is a priority.
Working on Caja problem could be one as well. A payent would make it
easier as the bug mathces to some particular beeds, as few users in
ours have big folders, and then this problem. But it exists, and we
would be hammy to priorize it if we are helped.
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Le 11/04/2018 à 15:57, Fernando Botelho
a écrit :
Peter,
please share what you find with the rest of us.
Also, check if this issue is on his radar screen and if people
donating can vote to give this or something else priority.
Fernando
On 04/11/2018 08:18 AM, Peter Vágner wrote:
Hello,
If I were able to donate some funds, I would send all of them
towards Samuel who is doing his best in order to revive some
awesome a11y development for linux under hypra's umbrella. At
least this is what I'm seeing on various bug trackers and email
lists including Libreoffice, Mozilla, Mate, Gnome and all of
GTK, speech-dispatcher, brltty and many more.
Without his dedication we would get lost even sooner.
We need to do something to avoid happening the same thing what
has happened to Luke.
I'm going to see if there is a way to donate either personally
to Samuel or to Hypra.
Greetings
Peter
Dňa ut 10. 4. 2018, 23:00 kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com
<mailto:coffeekingms gmail com>>
napísal(a):
hi
Cannot agree more, this issue needs to be fixed and stay
fixed.
On 04/10/2018 02:20 PM, Fernando Botelho wrote:
> This issue has been a problem for quite some time now.
Does anyone
> know how a dev or two could go about figuring a way to
fix this?
>
>
> Fernando
>
>
>
> On 04/09/2018 07:08 AM, Nick Wood wrote:
>> On 09/04/18 10:53, Rob wrote:
>>> Nick Wood <nick microlitesoftware co uk
<mailto:nick microlitesoftware co uk>>
wrote:
>>>> Being able to view a folder in a file
manager that has a large
>>>> number of
>>>> items is about as fundamental as it gets.
>>>>
>>>> Its not a problem on Windows with NVDA.
Its not a problem on
Mac with
>>>> VoiceOver. Its not even a problem on
Android with Google
TalkBack.
>>>> Its
>>>> only a problem on Linux with Orca.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's fundamental, all right. But all of those
have different
>>> accessibility stacks. So yes, they are
completely different from
>>> each other. Each one handles things differently
at a low
level. So I
>>> don't think it's really fair to compare tasks
between two
operating
>>> systems.
>>
>> Well, whatever the underlying reason, Windows
handles it far better
>> than Linux. That's the perspective of an end user
who just wants to
>> get their work done.
>>
>> I can plug my girlfriend's Android phone into my
Fedora PC and
>> Nautilus will hang whilst trying to display her
folder of photos.
>>
>> I can plug the same phone into Windows 7 (running
on less powerful
>> hardware) and it is perfectly snappy.
>>
>> Therefore, with my developer hat on, I assume that
the underlying
>> subsystems and APIs on Windows have been far better
implemented
than
>> the GTK/ATK accessibility stack on Linux.
>>
>> That is not a criticism of anyone - particularly
those on this
list -
>> it is just a fact of life.
>>
>> Perhaps by comparing Linux and Windows more often
we can
identify the
>> things that Linux is pretty poor at, and eventually
try and put
them
>> right.
>>
>> However you look at it, the accessibility stack on
Linux has some
>> pretty serious performance issues when dealing with
large
quantities
>> of objects.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Nick
>> _______________________________________________
>> orca-list mailing list
>> orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
>> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
>> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
>> GNOME Universal Access guide:
>> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
>> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> orca-list mailing list
> orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> GNOME Universal Access guide:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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