Re: [orca-list] [Testers wanted before the official release] Slint64-4.2.1 release candidate is accessible.

[Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>]

Before starting one of those apps, maybe the script command will be 
useful unless script cannot grab anything while running in the graphical 
user environment.  For terminal use it captures everything going out on 
the keyboard and coming back on the screen to a file file typescript 
unless you tell it different with script -f filename.  The script 
utility can also append to a file script -a filename.  Maybe the 
graphical user environment has an equivalent.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Didier Spaier wrote:

> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 09:19:43
> From: Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>
> To: Peter V?gner <pvdeejay gmail com>
> Cc: orca-list <orca-list gnome org>, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel panix com>
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] [Testers wanted before the official release]
>     Slint64-4.2.1 release candidate is accessible.
>
> Hello,
>
> I just made some tests and am puzzled.
> 1) If I have no ~/.config/startorca
> - I have no sound in LXDE, of course
> - I have desktop icons
> - pcmanfm --desktop-pref works
> 2) If i have a file ~/.config/startorca
> - I have sound in LXDE
> - I do not have desktop icons
> - pcmanfm --desktop-pref pops up an error message:
>  "Desktop manager is not active"
>
> I have been unable to understand why so far.
>
> On another topic, I made some more tests of qtatspi and noticed that
> when it is installed it seems that LXDE be less responsive, and the
> windows of KDE apps need 30 seconds or so to appear. I don't know why,
> maybe looking at the output when starting them from a terminal could
> give a clue, unfortunately these outputs are very verbose.
>
> Also, some apps are accessible, e.g. lokalize, others less so like kate
> or kwrite.
>
> PS: Maybe we could let users know that XFCE is more accessible, and also
> Mat? (Jude and Peter, could you please check that?).
>
> I will manage to include startoca.snip in xinitrc.mate either by default
> or as an automatic post-install task.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Didier
>
>
> Le 21/10/2017 ? 23:08, Peter V?gner a ?crit?:
> > > > Some lxde pannels are accessible with the flat review. However it appears
> > > > the desktop is not configured. Wouldn't it be more awesome if PCManFM
> > > would
> > > > be configured to provide the desktop? That way we would get inaccessible
> > > > pannels but very accessible gnome 2 style desktop that would receive the
> > > > focus when all apps are closed.
> > >
> > > I would be grateful for guidance on how to do that. I am a complete
> > > beginner in the field of accessibility, with zero experience as I see.
> > When pcmanfm is started with a --desktop switch it should provide the
> > desktop icons.
> > On an installed system I can see it's specified inside the file
> > ~/.config/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
> > but it is not running when lxde is showing, so it needs further
> > investigation.
> >
> >
> > > > Now when starting orca after the X session launch it just says Screen
> > > > reader on with nothing else. The only way on how to start working with
> > > the
> > > > system in this point is pressing alt+F1.
> > >
> > > Well, you can also press all+F2 to get a Run dialog, and also have a
> > > terminal focused when going graphical. To get that just type as regular
> > > user, for instance:
> > > cp /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop ~/.config/autostart
> > >
> > > Well I have tried to place modified pcmanfm.desktop into
> > ~/.config/autostart and it has not been started for me. Perhaps these two
> > things might contribute to each other. I will be looking again into this
> > tomorrow. I just wanted you to know my progress.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter

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