Re: [orca-list] [Testers wanted before the official release] Slint64-4.2.1 release candidate is accessible.

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,

The links to the readme and accessibility related hints should be
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-testing/iso/README
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-testing/iso/ACCESSIBILITY

I am going to do more testing now however eventhough I have read the linked material and wiki pages at slint.fr I am still a bit confused on how to install this with speech with no braille display connected.
Assuming I would like to install in english can I just boot off the iso image, press the enter key and wait for the speech to activate?
In the readme we are advised not to start graphical interface on boot when targetting accessibility but stay in the terminal. Does this also apply for the first boot while about to install?

How do you handle accessibility when running lightweight environments such as fluxbox, blackbox Fvwm, WindowMaker?
Is PCManFM configured to provide the desktop?
When starting menu / pannel / run dialog with the provided keyboard shortcuts are there the same apps launched from within each desktop or how did you manage to provide good level of accessibility in all these cases?
When pressing alt+tab to switch windows does orca report the window switching to, i.e. do I know which window I am switching to before the actual switch is performed? So I can switch to my window of choice without cycling over all of currently opened windows until the one I wish to activate gains the focus.
You have mentioned that the control center is not yet accessible because that's a QT4 app. To certain extend QT4 apps can be accessed with orca when qt-at-spi is installed alongside QT 4.8 or are there accessibility issues beyond the QT4 accessibility support as provided by the qt-at-spi?

I apologise for a lot of questions even before trying the distro however the fact main stream project aims such level of accessibility sounds very exciting to me. Given the fact the distro appears to be oriented on lightweight software it should run great with awesome performance too. And that is one more reason to make some good use of it.

Greetings

Peter

2017-10-17 12:34 GMT+02:00 Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>:

Hello list,

this is a request for testing the upcoming Slint64-14.2.1 by visually
impaired potential users, already posted in the blinux list.

Slint is a Linux distribution based on Slackware and Salix, polyglot,
versatile and beginners friendly, cf. our wiki http://slint.fr

A full Slint installation is functional out of the box and can be
tailored to fit most computing requirements.

The current stable version can be installed and used with braille.

The incoming Slint64-14.2.1 will be fully accessible to visually
impaired users, using speech and or a braille device, from installation
to everyday usage in text mode as well as in graphical mode.

Several accessible graphical environments are included in the release
candidate ISO, that can be downloaded here:
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-testing/iso/
Namely: BlackBox, Fluxbox, Fvwm, LXDE, WindowMaker, XFCE
In addition, Maté can be installed with a simple command.

For package management, Slint mostly uses slapt-get, similar to apt-get
but adapted to packages in the Slackware format.

The main software used to provide speech are espeakup with espeak on
the console, orca with espeak-ng, speech-dispatcher and at-spi in
graphical environments. pulseaudio is the sound server used.

brltty is used for braille, both on the console and in graphical
environments, orca communicating with brlapi in the latter case.

zero configuration post installation is needed for the first regular
user created during installation to get speech in the installed system,
if speech was used during installation. brltty is started during
installation and by default in the installed system.

To increase the accessibility of graphical environments, the same key
bindings are set in all mentioned above:
Alt+F1 pops up the panel's Application menu
Alt+F2 pops up a Run dialog (but in Fluxbox)
Alt+F4 closes the focused window
Alt+Tab cycle between windows, giving the raised one the focus.

All panels' application menus shipped have the same layout. From top to
bottom:
Terminal emulator (lxterminal by default)
File manager (PCManfm by default)
Web browser (Mozilla Firefox by default)
Mail client (Mozilla Thunderbird by default)
Preferences
Slint Dashboard (alas non accessible yet as it's a Qt4 app)
Applications sorted by category
Run dialog
Logout dialog

To know more please read:
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-testing/README
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-testing/ACCESSIBILITY

You can post your findings answering this message in the list, and also
in Slint's mailing list:
http://slint.fr/mailman/listinfo/slint_slint.fr
and in our forum:
https://forum.salixos.org/viewforum.php?f=44

I am thankful to the many people who helped me develop this new version.

I look forward for your testing results and feedback.

Have a good day,

Didier Spaier
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