Re: [orca-list] Orca stops to read some lines on LibreOffice since 3.24

[kendell clark <coffeekingms gmail com>]

hi

I vote for the bug to be fixed in libre office upstream, so that it gets 
into all distros. I'm not against hypra whatsoever, nor debian, but 
fixing a bug only on a particular distro means that only users of that 
distro get the fix. However, I have no idea how to go about getting 
libre office accessibility bugs fixed. The community isn't exactly bad 
at fixing the bugs, but they're not exactly fast either. Joanie can 
sometimes hack around bugs, but the more hacks she has to do, the more 
and mroe complex orca's codebase becomes as hacks pile upon hacks. This 
is not a complaint at all, just saying that apps should follow the 
established accessibility standards, regardless of OS. This hacking 
behavior is common on any os though, so some apps just for whatever 
reason do not.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



On 07/19/2017 02:42 AM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Le 19/07/2017 à 00:44, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :
> > On 07/18/2017 09:10 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > > What apps do you identify which may do this? I ask because we (Orca
> > > community) have had no feedbacks about it for years, so the problem does
> > > not seem to happen actually.
> > Again, it could happen from any app. One possibility -- but, again, not
> > the only one -- might be a hidden typeahead search.
> >
> > > Sure, just  a pitty that only Debian lets LO accessible properly due to
> > > this patch and the fact LO does not work on accessibility until we
> > > arrive. I think the situation is transitional, but a pitty a distro
> > > needs to hack to deal with it.
> > Well, a better approach would be for the LibreOffice bug to be fixed
> > properly. If that's not something Hypra is capable of, perhaps one of
> > the Debian folks could do it?
> Let's hope. At the moment given the available strength for next six
> months, and the amount of bugs to fix in LO and Mozilla (about 50), more
> or less complex, and due to the absolute onlyhood of our team on the
> matter in the communities (Mozilla, Olibreoffice, desktop), we weil need
> to accept an accessibility regression up Orca 3.26 waiting for better
> days. And to avoid it, probably to patch downstream as a transition.
> Let's see if we patch for Debian or just Hypra as I dont want to provide
> regressions if avoidable through any way, even transitional. End-user
> does not mind to know where the bug is from, so it is our role to
> improve his experience and handle the remaining of te subject for us and
> community.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> > --joanie