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Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

I really do think this thread needs to be tabled once and for all.  Joannie asked us very nicely to bring the 
list back on topic and here we are back off topic again.  

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Victor Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:49 PM
To: Josh K
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

Actually, the thought of government funding Linux and other open-source projects does concern me.  What I 
would like to see is vocational rehabilitation agencies purchase computers and have someone install Linux on 
them for their blind clients.  Or at least provide their clients with information about Linux.

This is about offering other options to the blind and saving tax payer money by providing Linux to the blind 
instead of expensive screen readers.  Since government employees and politicians always complain about the 
lack of funds, this makes sense.On 9/10/15, Josh K <joshknnd1982 gmail com> wrote:

at least some of the software in my comcast xfinity x1 box is open 
source. it told me by using the talking guide.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 9/10/2015 5:17 PM, B. Henry wrote:

I'm not for rehab dollars to be directly spent in donations for all 
the reasons you've mentioned and probably some others, but do think 
that gov does a roll to play supporting open source, and specifically 
improving universal accessability. Some of this should be cross 
platform and some suporting os specific projects like nvda and orca.
While I do not trust the government, anyone's gov to be in charge of 
what gets developed and what does not, nor do I trust a free market 
that is actually non free in several senses to decide these things.
I do not know what percentage of Freedom Scientific's market is 
selling to U.S. voc-rehab, nor which other countries  buy how much 
software from them, but I doubt FS would be what it is with out gov 
dollars and pounds and who knows what other currencies.
I am not saying that jaws is not the best tool for some users, nor 
that it's not the only tool that will work for some of those folks.
I do think it sad that many people can not even install a quality 
free product due to a limited understanding of accessiblity/usability 
realities and overlly rigid security policies.
If there was some kind of stamp of approval given to NVDA so that 
folks who could be more productive having it along side of or even in 
place of jaws on a company computer....
But this is OT, and I was not going to write more on this here, and 
apoligize in advance/will not continue this conversation.
There's far to much here to cover in one or three or 10 more emails, 
and I have counter arguments to half of my own arguments that I think 
are at least partially valid.




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On 9/10/15, Josh K <joshknnd1982 gmail com> wrote:

at least some of the software in my comcast xfinity x1 box is open 
source. it told me by using the talking guide.

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 9/10/2015 5:17 PM, B. Henry wrote:

I'm not for rehab dollars to be directly spent in donations for all 
the reasons you've mentioned and probably some others, but do think 
that gov does a roll to play supporting open source, and specifically 
improving universal accessability. Some of this should be cross 
platform and some suporting os specific projects like nvda and orca.
While I do not trust the government, anyone's gov to be in charge of 
what gets developed and what does not, nor do I trust a free market 
that is actually non free in several senses to decide these things.
I do not know what percentage of Freedom Scientific's market is 
selling to U.S. voc-rehab, nor which other countries  buy how much 
software from them, but I doubt FS would be what it is with out gov 
dollars and pounds and who knows what other currencies.
I am not saying that jaws is not the best tool for some users, nor 
that it's not the only tool that will work for some of those folks.
I do think it sad that many people can not even install a quality 
free product due to a limited understanding of accessiblity/usability 
realities and overlly rigid security policies.
If there was some kind of stamp of approval given to NVDA so that 
folks who could be more productive having it along side of or even in 
place of jaws on a company computer....
But this is OT, and I was not going to write more on this here, and 
apoligize in advance/will not continue this conversation.
There's far to much here to cover in one or three or 10 more emails, 
and I have counter arguments to half of my own arguments that I think 
are at least partially valid.




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