Re: [orca-list] GUI Redesign or clearup and modernization

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I agree with John on this one. I have a refreshable braille display that 
I acquired myself, and to think that someone considers me a blind 
entitlement baby based on just this one fact is offensive. On the other 
hand, do I really care what someone who would so indiscriminately and 
unapologetically use such a term on a public list thinks of me?

On 09/04/2015 02:06 PM, Kyle wrote:
> According to John Heim:
> # You should apologize for using the term "blind government
> # entitlement babies". That's offensive.
>
> Um, no. Are you a blind government entitlement baby? If not, then you
> have no reason to be offended, as I wasn't talking to you. Blind
> government entitlement babies are some sorry people, and are offensive
> to me, not to mention how offensive the companies are who can get away
> with charging an arm and a leg and a couple of teeth because the
> entitlement babies piss and moan until the government pays the high
> price of their screen readers and notetakers. These same people are the
> ones who want Jaws, Kerzweil , their Windows computer and a braille
> display handed to them instead of putting just a little bit of their
> money, maybe even as little as 5 or 10 dollars, into supporting free
> and open source screen readers and operating systems, as well as the
> development of open source hardware, which could help them a lot more.
> Or if they have no money, they could be putting whatever time and skill
> they have into making improvements to the software, reporting bugs,
> making reasonable suggestions, coding, etc, improving things for
> everyone including themselves.
>
> Of course the flip side to this is the fact that the government, along
> with the blindy companies and the so-called advocacy organizations make
> all this happen, as they continually pay the high prices for inferior
> hardware and software and tell us we need it, rather than putting money
> and people behind development and improvement of the freedom hardware
> and software that would help everyone a lot more. And yes, in case you
> were wondering, I was once such an entitlement baby. The government
> even paid for a braille display for my job, which they told me I
> needed, which cost at that time, roughly 18 years ago, about the same
> price as a car. Just a few years later, when I wanted to go to school
> for computer science, the government agency told me I didn't need an
> $800 laptop, even though I already had the screen reader, but that I
> could have a $1500 braille 'n speak instead, . I also was once a member
> of one of those blindy organizations, and was even the president of my
> local chapter. I saw much of this kind of thing there. My state chapter
> had nearly 2 million dollars tucked away in a bank, didn't put so much
> as a penny toward helping anyone for real. They only gave 2 people
> scholarships each year and bought them a copy of some high priced
> software to put on the computer that they bought for them, all the
> while reinforcing the idea that we all need this mess to do our jobs
> and to make our way through the cruel cruel world. And after all this,
> we still have a 75 to 80% rate of unemployment, even with all the fancy
> schmancy stuff that costs too much. So I do know how the system works,
> and yes, this is offensive to me as well. This is why I help people out
> who want a better way of doing things. This is why I support hardware
> and software freedom by promoting it, building it and helping people
> use it.
> Sent from my pufferfish
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Christopher (CJ)
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