Hi,
I used PcmanFM to manage my desktop with no problems on Arch Linux.
You have to start it after you login, try to use .bashrc or whatever
is confortable for you. See Arch Linux wiki entry for PcmanFM for
more information.
Best regards,
Vojta
On 25.5.2015 02:25, B.Henry wrote:
> Well, it appears to have been a
fluke the time I got a menu to open when running spacefm
configured to manage my desktop. I can't duplicate this right now
anyway.
> Orca just says frame if I move in to an empty workspace. By
empty I mean one where I've not opened any program windows. I
assume visually one sees my desktop and I think I left the fluxbox
slit visible as long as there are no maximized windows in a given
workspace.
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> B.H.
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> On 24/05/15 06:57 PM, B.Henry wrote:
>> I don't use mate at the moment, but have always had great
success with orca and caja running in fluxbox. There are no panels
that orca can see so the desktop is always in focus when switching
to an empty workspace, and sometimes, (not that often), will have
focus when re-entering a workspace with open windows in it. I
would like a way to focus the desktop in active workspace even
when programs are open in it, but this is not very important to me
as I have defined 6 workspaces so usually have one or more unused
ones, and can add more if I wanted to.
>> I like caja, but would seldom use it if I could get
pcmanfm or spacefm to show orca the desktop. I could open menus
but not see icons for files, folders, or any controls when menus
were closed when I set spacefm up to manage my desktop.
>> I don't want to run nautilus at all when running fluxbox,
and read that there was some bug that kept this from working
correctly in the past anyway. (might have been fixed/don't
remember whether this bug was back from gnome2 days, early gnome
shell, or more recent times)
>> Do you know what the mate folks did to get the desktop
icons
>> to show themselves to orca, or was the problem
with focusing the desktop?
>>
>> B.H.
>> Registerd Linux User 521886
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>> On 24/05/15 06:02 PM, kendell clark wrote:
hi
I think all that is required is for the file manager to know how
to
manage desktop icons. There's probably an api and standard for
this.
The problem is, unless you're using nautilus, orca returns "not
selected" after each icon, causing some subtle issues. Nemo, linux
mint's fork of nautilus, can also manage the desktop, and it
requires
a check of a check box in the preferences to make this happen. I'm
not
sure what nautilus does differently, but orca seems to work better
with it managing the desktop than with other file managers. This
is
likely a combination of bugs in orca itself, and the file manager.
I
think, but cannot prove, that most of the problem is orca using
older
code from gnome 2, or gtk2, and trying to guess where the file
manager
doesn't give it the information it needs.
Thanks
Kendell clark
B.Henry wrote:
>>>> I can reconfirm the first bugs mentioned, not
seen the one about
>>>> files list not being read after returning to
spacefm window. Anyway
>>>> I would certainly like to see this program get
its kinks ironed
>>>> out. It takes some reading of documentation and
experimentation to
>>>> start using most of the interesting extra
functionality, so be
>>>> prepared to take somoe time, maybe a good bit to
get started with
>>>> spacefm. Custom commands and scripts can be used
with othere file
>>>> managers, but spacefm is especially good for
this. I can see how it
>>>> would be great for people who have lots of files
to work with as
>>>> well. Spacefm can remember custom panel layouts
for different
>>>> situations. One thing I'd like to see is
accessible desktops using
>>>> spacefm and pcmanfm, thunar also. Caja and
nautilus are the only
>>>> filemanagers I know of that can accessibly manage
and display
>>>> desktops. Would this be very hard to fix? As it
is I always need to
>>>> run at least two filemanagters, and if I decide
to make spacefm a
>>>> regular part of the kit I may need three
filemanagers on some
>>>> systems.
>>>>
>>>> B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886
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>>>> On 21/05/15 09:53 AM, Vojtěch Polášek wrote:
>>>>> Hi, I know I wrote about this previously...
but... I found
>>>>> SpaceFM file manager. I like it very much
because you can
>>>>> literaly do whatever you want with it. You
can customize every
>>>>> possible menu item, add various keyboard
shortcuts etc. Now for
>>>>> example it behaves almost like Total
commander except for
>>>>> keyboard shortcut for switching among panels.
Btw, it can have
>>>>> even four panels if you need them. However, I
face several
>>>>> problems: 1. some menu items are not spoken.
I dont know why, it
>>>>> looks like normal GTK app. 2. everytime I
start the program and
>>>>> press F10 to open the menu, I can't navigate
it. I have to use
>>>>> alt+letter to open some menu and after that
F10 works as
>>>>> expected. 3. Sometimes after alt-tabing out
of the program and
>>>>> then back, I can't read file list. I have to
go one level up. But
>>>>> in this canse I have still to find a way to
reproduce it
>>>>> reliably. First two cases can be reproduced.
I am running SpaceFM
>>>>> from git on Arch Linux. Could anyone give me
an advice how to
>>>>> debug this behavior? Thanks, Vojta
>>>>>
_______________________________________________ orca-list mailing
>>>>> list orca-list gnome org
>>>>>
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit
>>>>> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more
information on Orca. The
>>>>> manual is at
>>>>>
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>>>>> Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find
>>>>> out how to help at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> list orca-list gnome org
>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit
>>>> http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information
on Orca. The manual
>>>> is at
>>>>
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>>>>
>>>>
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
>>>> Log bugs and feature requests at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out
>>>> how to help at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>>
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