Re: [orca-list] Important: Web accessibility survey for screen reader users

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe <texou actux eu org>]

Hi,

I've taught Orca and GNU/Linux to someone which works in Web a11y and 
wrich isn't far from W3C. Her feedback was interesting, I think, to 
explain the problem:
1. Very hard to evaluate Orca for Web a11y, as it's strongly 
distro/versions-dependent. So she sees that as a mess to evaluate. 
Diversity is a problem in such cases to recommend a version, a distro, 
etc., especially when any new release nearly removes the support for 
older releases. The frequency of releases and support is a problem she 
mentioned.
2. Orca is less performant, from much users point of view, than NVDA or 
other screen readers. Especially, we saw a different behavior with 
modern Web techno such as ARIA, html5 sometimes, etc. and with latest 
a11y !ecommendations. And sometimes more latency.

Those 2 reactions make people not recommend Orca at all. That's why we 
need to change this program's status regarding the support and the 
guidelines (it's what we try doing with Hypra), and helping code 
improvements (it's what we plan to do).



Best regards,

Le 27/07/2015 18:48, B. Henry a écrit :
> It is counter productive to not participate.
> If you have not ever done this survey perhaps you are unaware that in all cases I remember there is an other 
> option where you can write in orca. Perhaps
> my memory is not 100% correct, and there are questions where this is not ture, but again, I don't remember 
> not being able to write in Orca, and speakup.
> I mention both as I use both, and i check NVDA or listed alternatives where appropriate. I  think there are 
> questions where you are asked to put
> screenreaders in ordr of which you use most, but may be confusing this with other surveys. I'm really sory I 
> didi not do this year's survey now that
> this has become such a topic of interest here as having more people mentioning Orca and friendswould likely 
> have more impact.
> I don't remember if write ins such as Orca are mentioned by name in the published results or not, or if 
> "other" is just shown as such lumpiing all
> write-ins together.
> I seem to recall that there is an overview or results as well as a detailed results presentation. They also 
> showed trends comparing where they compared
> current results to past years with some analysis.


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