Re: [orca-list] Important: Web accessibility survey for screen reader users

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I doubt very much the authors of this survey are part of some world wide 
conspiracy against Orca or open source software. I think it's much more 
likely that it was just over looked or that Linux/Orca just isn't used 
by enough people, at least with some actual statistics, to merit 
inclusion in this list. ChromeVox is new, and is the screen reder for 
ChromeOS and ChromeBooks, so I'm not surprised it's on the list, at 
least for now. I'd suggest doing what I did and including Orca on the 
survey yourself as an other or in the write in comments.

On 07/27/2015 07:18 AM, kendell clark wrote:
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> hi
> This is definitely possible. I was talking with some people on the
> talking arch channel and we were all wondering why orca didn't get a
> mention. After all, chromevox is on the list, and that barely
> qualifies as a screen reader. It's more of an application specific
> reader, which ... well, whether it counts or not is debatable I guess.
> I think it all boils down to the blind government agencies, of which
> this web accessibility thing is probably associated with, conveniently
> forgetting to give linux any mentions at all. I've noticed this a lot,
> but I don't have an answer. My cinical side thinks it's some plot to
> make windows and apple invaluable, while the rest of me has no idea.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
>
>
> kk wrote:
> > Hi all. orca is indeed being used in India extensively, specially
> > in the south. And I think this is deliberate social engineering by
> > some exploitative proprietary mafia which wants people to have
> > another reason not to use a free OS. Given that NVDA gets a mention
> > at all the places, it being open source, then why not Orca? The
> > reason is very simple, you still need proprietary OS and other
> > proprietary software with NVDA right? But Linux is free as in
> > freedom and to a great extent as in free of cost. So they want to
> > defeate the very social purpose. Happy hacking. Krishnakant.
> >
> >
> > On Monday 27 July 2015 01:03 PM, Trenton Matthews wrote:
> > > hmmm. Fewer usrs? Nah. Small community, definitely.
> > >
> > > As for it not being on the survey, (which i think is closed now,)
> > > I wonder the reason why Orca isn't on the list, is because it
> > > doesn't get enough press. Same with Supernova and Cobra on
> > > Windows for that matter...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:09 AM, _mallory
> > > <stommepoes stommepoes nl <mailto:stommepoes stommepoes nl>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 09:17:52AM -0500, Alex Midence wrote:
> > > > I wanted to pass this link along to you guys so the Orca
> > > community is more represented in these things so, I’m terribly
> > > sorry about the cross posting.  This is a survey conducted by
> > > Webaim to find out how accessible screen reader users think the
> > > internet is.  What bugs me is that they mention nearly all
> > > screen readers except for Orca.  Last time I mentioned it to
> > > them, they said it was because they didn’t think anyone used it
> > > much so, they didn’t include it.  Chromevox was there though
> > > which I would argue has fewer users than Orca does.
> > >
> > > > http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey6/
> > >
> > > Jared even made a snarky comment about Orca users:
> > > https://twitter.com/jared_w_smith/status/618529195761668096
> > >
> > > It would be nice to know if Orca is more heavily represented in
> > > countries like India and Brazil, because I'm pretty sure the
> > > WebAIM surveys are very Western-biased, where having a Windows
> > > machine is often an automatic default.
> > >
> > > _mallory _______________________________________________
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> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
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