Re: [orca-list] orca does not announce the name of the window first time alt+tab is pressed

[Peter Vágner <pvdeejay gmail com>]

Hello,
Thanks for your patience with us.
You might be missing an answer to the question which gnomeshell 
extensions I am running. I have no gnomeshell extensions installed at 
least I have installed nothing on my own. I am using whatever came with 
gnome by default. I have originally installed gnome 3.6 on this laptop 
and as a result of rolling release distro I have updated several times 
up to gnome 3.14 what I am running today.

Greetings

Peter

On 17.10.2014 at 16:21 Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey José and Peter.
>
> I can reproduce this on my laptop (also Fedora). So I'll dig into this a
> bit more. If the bug is in Orca, I'll fix it today. If the bug is in
> GNOME Shell, I'll file it today. This weekend might be a good time for
> me to wipe and do a clean install of GNOME on my desktop to be sure I
> don't have any cruft that's hiding bugs from me.
>
> Thanks for your patience with this!
> --joanie
>
> On 10/16/2014 11:39 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > Hi Joanie.
> > I am running Alternatetab extension.
> >
> > In attach the debug file.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On 10/16/2014 08:53 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > Thanks José.
> > >
> > > I just looked at the difference between pyatspi2 2.12.0 and 2.14.0 and
> > > it's just some tests, so we're using the same versions. <insert sigh
> > > here>
> > >
> > > Could you please do a couple of things:
> > >
> > > 1. Confirm that you are not running any gnome-shell extensions.
> > >
> > > 2. Send me a full, complete debug.out? In the one you sent, you trimmed
> > > it after the release event for Tab. I just took a look at my full
> > > debug.out where everything is working as expected (i.e. Orca speaks each
> > > selected item in the switcher, even the first one). And in my full
> > > debug.out, the accessible event for the initially selected item when the
> > > switcher first appears happens after that Tab-key release event.
> > >
> > > BTW, in that same email with the debug.out you asked about missing
> > > keyboard events (you had the type=1, but not the type=0 for Tab). GNOME
> > > Shell doesn't always emit all the keyboard events. However, that doesn't
> > > change the accessible object events (i.e. selection changes). And I
> > > don't have that type=0 one either. But Orca still presents the initially
> > > selected item for me. So no you're not missing anything. It's a GNOME
> > > Shell quirk. But if I had to bet, not seeing that initial keyboard event
> > > in your debug.out is a red herring. What matters here, what Orca needs,
> > > and what Orca presents are object events.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > --joanie
> > >
> > > On 10/16/2014 06:51 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > > > Hi Joanie.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/16/2014 06:48 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > Well, at least the bug is consistent. What version of the following:
> > > > > 1. clutter? I have 1.20.0
> > > > 1.20.0
> > > > > 2. atk? I have 2.14.0
> > > > 2.14.0
> > > > > 3. at-spi2-atk? I have 2.14.1
> > > > 2.14.1
> > > > > 4. at-spi2-core? I have 2.14.0
> > > > 2.14.0
> > > > > 5. pyatspi2? I have 2.14.0
> > > > 2.12.0 but in my environment is called
> > > > > python-atspi.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > > --joanie
> >
> >
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