Re: [orca-list] new linux distro, with apology to Robert Cole

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Cli only version doesn't do anything for me unless it's loaded with server
goodies.  I like Gui apps.  

Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Daniel
Barich
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 2:00 PM
To: Kyle
Cc: orca-list
Subject: Re: [orca-list] new linux distro, with apology to Robert Cole

> We also aim to provide a command line
> only version of Sonar for users who either don't want to use a 
> graphical

There's already a command-line Talking Archlinux which I've used a little
bit:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_for_the_blind

I haven't yet tried installing a DE but just wondered how the new sonar
would compare to it.

> environment at all, or who would choose to only use a graphical 
> environment parttime and would install their chosen desktop later. 
> This is best achieved by using an Arch derivative, as it does exactly
this.
> Additionally, Manjaro has its own repositories divided into 3 branches:
> unstable, which syncs with Arch and where packages are tested by 
> developers and users who want to be as close to Arch as possible, 
> testing, where packages are tested by users who are interested in 
> reporting any bugs or instability they find, and stable, which picks 
> up fixes from testing and unstable, and is considered ready for use by 
> anyone who just needs a stable environment with few issues. It is 
> possible to move freely between branches at any time, i.e. to move 
> from stable to unstable and then downgrade back to testing or all the 
> way back to stable.
>
> We intend to provide live images that will be based on GNOME shortly 
> after its release, and we will continue experimenting with LXDE, 
> providing live images shortly after it is released. These live images 
> are to be based on Manjaro's stable branch. However, because Manjaro 
> is a rolling release, it will not be necessary to download a new iso 
> every
> 6 months, as stable packages are updated weekly. It's kinda like 
> running Debian Unstable or Arch, but minimizing the breakage that
sometimes occurs.
> Additionally, using Manjaro as a base will make it easier for the 
> development team to keep Sonar updated. Using Ubuntu to provide GNOME
> 3.10 would have required repackaging most of the GNOME desktop in a 
> PPA, which seemed a bit like having to reinvent the wheel, especially 
> since Ubuntu GNOME will apparently still be using mostly GNOME 3.8 
> with some
> 3.6 packages once 13.10 is released. Manjaro, on the other hand, will 
> be receiving a complete GNOME 3.10 desktop from Arch, which will hit 
> the stable branch very shortly afterward, so it will be ready for 
> Sonar much more quickly. Once 3.10 is available in Manjaro's repos, 
> building its Sonar iso will be a very simple matter of running a 
> single command that builds it based on our specifications and then 
> uploading it to the website. We also have much more fine-grained 
> control over what we want on the live image and the installed system 
> than we did with the Ubuntu build system. Yes, we can actually take 
> out Empathy and Evolution, which are having issues with Orca, without 
> losing metapackages and causing other packaging issues. We can remove 
> some of those games that  Orca can't help us play as well. We can even 
> replace the display manager at will, offering whatever will provide the
best talking login screen.
> And I'm sure people have started seeing the word "we" a lot in this 
> message and are probably wondering what that's all about. Well,I'll 
> come right out and say it, I'm officially on the Sonar team, although 
> it wasn't me who drove the project to migrate to Manjaro. I was all 
> ready to try my hand at helping to repackage GNOME for a PPA that 
> would have been used to make the 13.10 Sonar release. We just heard 
> about Manjaro and found out just how easy it is to build it into 
> exactly the iso we want it to be, and we started working closely with 
> the Manjaro team, and were very pleasantly surprised by how far we 
> were able to go with it in just 4 days. So yeah, I'm very excited to 
> be on the team, and I'm very excited to be working with an amazing 
> Arch derivative for the foundation of Sonar's future releases. I hope 
> this clears up any confusion about where the Sonar project is going 
> and why. Any other questions can be directed to the Sonar team or the 
> Accessible Freedom support list, or sent in response to this message.
> ~Kyle
> http://kyle.tk/
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