Re: [orca-list] Is Linux suitable for non-programmer/computer scientists?



Making it a little bit difficult to edit system config files is a safety feature, you know you are doing something potentially dangerous.

Most applications look in your home file for a hidden directory having the same name as the application.

If the application is named browser you can make a new dirrctory in nautilus with the name .browser then enter it and open in a new tab the location /etc/browser and you will find a file called browser.conf, select that file, copy it, then go to the other tab in nautilus, and paste it.  Now you will have a local configuration file which right now is identical to the system configuration file under /etc/browser.

You need then to select that file you have just pasted, go to propertirs, and change the ownership, do you can save any changes.

Change the permissions so the file is owned by your username, say that is hank or whatever it.  You also want to make sure username can edit the file, so make sure username has write permission.

I think now you can see why command line is so much easier!

Here is the same thing in command line.

mkdir .browser
cp /etc/browser/browser.conf ~/.browser.conf
sudo chown username:username ~/.browser/browser.conf
chmod +w ~/.browser/browser.conf

All done and you had no multiple tabs, even worse, if you used gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus to open a root file manager, you don't have to make sure you are using the root file browser to make nrw directories or files which will not be able to be edited by a normal user.  I have done that and it took a long time to find out what was wrong.

Command line demands the exact correct commands, but you can get most of the commands by using name of command folloeed by fouble hyphen help like apt-get --help and even more help is available in the linuc manual, as in RTFM which means "read the freaking manual" simply by entering this:

man apt-get

Or whatever the command is.

On some systems you have to enter :q to exit the manual.

Also some powerful commands have an info file, so try this:

info apt-get

I have nerve damage to brain also so I cannot remember things until I have used them a thousand times, so I use command--help and man command a lot and listen to find the switch I need.

Switches are the patts of a command after the command itself, so in apt-get --help, the switch is --help.

It is not as hard as it looks and you will learn quickly that it is much much easier sometimes.

I even open a terminal and enter the graphical programs command to save me the time of going to the menu.

VINUX has shortcut CTRL + ALT + t already configured to open up gnome-terminal, so I use that shortcut and just type the name of the program.  It is faster for me.

David





On Mar 17, 2013 10:20 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-Eye dog Iona" <hanksmith hanksmith net> wrote:
what about configuring apps?
and also editing conf files
last time I used ubuntu I had to drop in to command line just to open text editor to edit conf files couldn't do that from gui do to root not being available in ubuntu gui
is there a work around for stuff like this?
Hank
On 3/17/2013 7:10 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Hank,


On 3/17/13, Hank Smith, and Seeing-Eye dog Iona <hanksmith hanksmith net> wrote:
but don't u have to install linux apps from command line?
No, you don't. There are a number of graphical tools to install and
manage apps. On Ubuntu, for example, I use Software Center to install
and remove applications. I agree using apt-get is faster, but it isn't
strictly necessary to use any command line tools to install and remove
apps.
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