Re: [orca-list] Ubuntu 12.10 and beyond, Unity 2D will no longer be maintained.

[Krishnakant Mane <krmane gmail com>]

Hi Thomas,
You are absolutely right in today's context.
I myself don't think I would upgrade until the next LTS release this time.
About upgrading every year, I used to do it because the momentum of 
picking up every other day about accessibility and Orca.  However with 
this LTS we have reached a plateau  and I think this is pritty satisfactory.
Unity 2D is more than acceptable although not 100% compelling.
The overall development on accessibility and the progress on desktop 
based apps is overwhelming for this LTS and a person like me can surely 
go with it.
If Nautilus gets updated for performance (we already have a work around 
for that ) and if apps like thunderbird and libre office get more bug 
fixes for accessibility improvements, I don't see any reson to upgrade.
In addition Vinux 4 is coming up and given that it will have the 
upgrades for all the parts of accessibility stack as and when it 
happens, what more could one expect?
For those who work with sighted colleagues, Unity 3d is always there.
By the way, this might be off topic, but does any one know how to get 
the desktop cube enabled in Unity 3D?
My wife tryed it but I could not help her out in that, because as it is 
Unity 3D is not accessible.
Any ways, with this LTS I don't think I am upgrading till the next LTS.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.


On 05/12/2012 12:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> Hi Krishnakant,
>
> Agreed. I don't usually upgrade everything between LTS releases anyway 
> so if it takes until Ubuntu 14for Unity 3D to become fully accessible 
> I don't mind. I can stick with Unity 2D and/or the Gnome Shell until 
> then. I usually only install intermediate releases on a test box 
> either for development purposes or to test what's coming down the 
> pipeline for the next LTS. I've always just used stable LTS releases 
> for mass deployment. In this case 12.04 will be supported up to 2017 
> so even if Ubuntu 14 doesn't pan out we'll still have bug fixes and 
> support for 12 until Ubuntu 16 rolls out.
>
> Which brings up an issue. You talk about an average user upgrading say 
> once a year even though that isn't strictly necessary. I would think 
> the average users would upgrade to LTS releases which are usually 
> stable and generally well tested beforehand. The intermediate releases 
> while usually stable only have support for about six months before the 
> next intermediate release is rolled out. I really don't see why anyone 
> would put those on production machines just because of the hassle of 
> backing up data, upgrading, and then restoring anything needed from 
> backups. Meanwhile the LTS release continues to get patches, bug 
> fixes, and updated software packages without the hassle of a massive 
> upgrade and backup and restore.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On 5/11/2012 12:35 AM, Krishnakant Mane wrote:
> > Yes, and untill then, we at least have Unity 2D on Ubuntu 12.04.
> > A person like me would hardly upgrade for a year on an average.
> > I do have machines for testing new stuff, but my main machine I am 
> > sure will run Unity 2D till at least Ubuntu 13.04, untill which we 
> > might have a fairly accessible gnome shell.
> > Happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
>
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