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Re: [orca-list] talking gdm with orca in fedora

Hi, Robert,

I'll try it out as soon as the installation kinks are worked out for
accessibility.  What little vision remains to me is good for telling
when the lights are on and off and for when it's day or night which is
essentially the same thing.  Not much use on a computer screen so
speech is the ticket for me.  I am keenly interested in learning how
to work with Fedora since it gives you aleg up on Red Hat Enterprise
Linux.  That seems to be where most of the Linux-based jobs are at
these days.  It makes sense to try and get some marketability in what
I learn about Linux since I spend so much time on it.  Who knows?
Some day, it might help pay the bills!  REL is very important in that
regard because it is so so popular as an enterprise solution.

Alex M

On 6/13/12, Robert Cole <rkcole72984 gmail com> wrote:

Hello, Alex.

Fedora has been quite an experience for me in a good way.

Although there is no accessible login screen (at least to my minuscule
bit of knowledge), although its installer is not yet fully accessible,
and although there is a bit more work in getting things up and going
(such as audio/video codecs and other things), Fedora actually works
wonderfully with Orca once you are logged in. It is basically a vanilla
GNOME experience, it is very fast, and it seems to be quite reliable. I
still do not completely understand SELinux, but it definitely makes
things much more secure.

Although some things are not set up out of the box as they are in Ubuntu
(for instance, I am still not quite sure how to get QT applications
talking), I think I may plant myself in Fedora from now on.

If you are able to test it out in some way, I would recommend it. It has
been a great experience for me.

Kind regards!

On 06/12/2012 12:03 PM, Alex Midence wrote:

Sounds like Fedora's just the wrong distro for you if you need to use
a screen reader.  Now, I really wana try it!  Grass is greener and all
that.

Alex M

On 6/12/12, Robert Cole <rkcole72984 gmail com> wrote:

Hello, Alonzo.

I apologize as I do not think that what I have to say will be of much
help.

I am running Fedora 17 here at home now as well. After reading your
message, I logged out and looked at the accessibility menu on the login
screen. Interestingly enough, at least for me, there is no potion for
"Screen Reader" (Orca) neither on the login screen nor on my desktop
after I am logged in. I have noticed since installing Fedora 17 that
SELinux does seem to block some different things when Orca is running;
they seem to have been related to at-spi. At one point Orca was not even
talking until I followed the instructions in the SELinux Troubleshooter
to create a policy; I accessed this via magnification.

I am really not sure how to get GDM talking, or if it is possible right
now. I was kind of wondering myself it it was possible to install
LightGM and get it talking as it does in Ubuntu, but I have not tried it
yet as I am trying to figure out how to solve an issue with my monitor.
I will not get into that, though, as it goes completely out of the scope
of this list.

If I figure anything out I will let you know, but I am sorry that I do
not have anything helpful to offer you.

Take care.

On 06/12/2012 08:28 AM, Alex Midence wrote:

Hi.

Your post arrived just fine.  The reason you are probably not getting
many
responses is that there are very few of us who use Fedora due to
largely
inaccessible install process.  That may soon change, however, as
Joannie
has been working on Anaconda's accessibility.  Hang in there.  Someone
is
bound to respond sooner or later.

Best,
Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]
On
Behalf Of Alonzo Cuellar
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:27 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: [orca-list] talking gdm with orca in fedora

Hello list,
I'm not sure if my message was received, but I'll repost. I'm wanting
to
make gdm talk on fedora this way I can tell when to enter my password
when
using fedora.
I've found some messages relating to fedora 11, but I'm not sure if the
same still applies. I've tried doing
gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility
to see what my system would report for the current user and i get the
following.

Client failed to connect to the dbus daemon.
The remote application did not send a reply, the message buss security
policy blocked the reply, the reply timed out/expired, or the network
connection timed out.
Failure listing entries in /desktop/gnome/interface , no dbus
daemonrunning.

I'd think this is an selinux-policy issue, but I'm not sure.
Either that or values with gconftool-2 do not require dbus. I believe
though its the latter of what I've mentioned.
I'm running Fedora 17.

cheers to all,
Alonzo
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp


_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp




_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
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