Re: [orca-list] talking gdm with orca in fedora



Bob, are you using Pulseaudio?  The speakup-modified version Web site
suggests commenting out a line in one of the files to prevent its use.  

Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Robert Cole
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:46 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] talking gdm with orca in fedora

Hello, Alex.

Fedora has been quite an experience for me in a good way.

Although there is no accessible login screen (at least to my minuscule bit
of knowledge), although its installer is not yet fully accessible, and
although there is a bit more work in getting things up and going (such as
audio/video codecs and other things), Fedora actually works wonderfully with
Orca once you are logged in. It is basically a vanilla GNOME experience, it
is very fast, and it seems to be quite reliable. I still do not completely
understand SELinux, but it definitely makes things much more secure.

Although some things are not set up out of the box as they are in Ubuntu
(for instance, I am still not quite sure how to get QT applications
talking), I think I may plant myself in Fedora from now on.

If you are able to test it out in some way, I would recommend it. It has
been a great experience for me.

Kind regards!

On 06/12/2012 12:03 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
Sounds like Fedora's just the wrong distro for you if you need to use 
a screen reader.  Now, I really wana try it!  Grass is greener and all 
that.

Alex M

On 6/12/12, Robert Cole <rkcole72984 gmail com> wrote:
Hello, Alonzo.

I apologize as I do not think that what I have to say will be of much
help.

I am running Fedora 17 here at home now as well. After reading your 
message, I logged out and looked at the accessibility menu on the 
login screen. Interestingly enough, at least for me, there is no 
potion for "Screen Reader" (Orca) neither on the login screen nor on 
my desktop after I am logged in. I have noticed since installing 
Fedora 17 that SELinux does seem to block some different things when 
Orca is running; they seem to have been related to at-spi. At one 
point Orca was not even talking until I followed the instructions in 
the SELinux Troubleshooter to create a policy; I accessed this via
magnification.

I am really not sure how to get GDM talking, or if it is possible 
right now. I was kind of wondering myself it it was possible to 
install LightGM and get it talking as it does in Ubuntu, but I have 
not tried it yet as I am trying to figure out how to solve an issue with
my monitor.
I will not get into that, though, as it goes completely out of the 
scope of this list.

If I figure anything out I will let you know, but I am sorry that I 
do not have anything helpful to offer you.

Take care.

On 06/12/2012 08:28 AM, Alex Midence wrote:
Hi.

Your post arrived just fine.  The reason you are probably not 
getting many responses is that there are very few of us who use 
Fedora due to largely inaccessible install process.  That may soon 
change, however, as Joannie has been working on Anaconda's 
accessibility.  Hang in there.  Someone is bound to respond sooner or
later.

Best,
Alex M


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org 
[mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of Alonzo Cuellar
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:27 AM
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: [orca-list] talking gdm with orca in fedora

Hello list,
I'm not sure if my message was received, but I'll repost. I'm 
wanting to make gdm talk on fedora this way I can tell when to enter 
my password when using fedora.
I've found some messages relating to fedora 11, but I'm not sure if 
the same still applies. I've tried doing
gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility
to see what my system would report for the current user and i get 
the following.

Client failed to connect to the dbus daemon.
The remote application did not send a reply, the message buss 
security policy blocked the reply, the reply timed out/expired, or 
the network connection timed out.
Failure listing entries in /desktop/gnome/interface , no dbus 
daemonrunning.

I'd think this is an selinux-policy issue, but I'm not sure.
Either that or values with gconftool-2 do not require dbus. I 
believe though its the latter of what I've mentioned.
I'm running Fedora 17.

cheers to all,
Alonzo
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orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out 
how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp

_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out 
how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp



_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to
help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp




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