Re: [orca-list] Announce copy to clipboard [was "Re: Some bugs with perhaps possible fixing in master branch"]

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I really like this customization. I don't use it though to know whether
I pressed control+c to copy something to the clipboard but rather to see
if I cut the right text in an application like Firefox, where I don't
hear the text as I select it.

BTW, the one thing I don't like about this customization is that it's
bound to Orca+r, which I think is the same key sequence needed to turn
on the reading of row headers in Libre Office. I'm sure I can tweak Orca
to get around this though.

On 04/06/12 13:17, Storm Dragon wrote:
> Hi,
> If you need to check what you have in the clipboard my customizations
> file has a read clipboard contents function which is bound to orca+r.
> It's very useful for knowing what you are going to paste before you
> paste it. In conjunction with glipper, it is really awesome. I have
> heard my customizations file does not work with the latest orca
> releases, but I haven't had a chance to try and fix it because I am
> still using gnome2. It does, I know for sure, work with the latest
> orca-desktop release. So, if you are interested, it is at:
> http://www.stormdragon.us/orca-customizations/
> HTH
> Storm
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> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 12:35 -0500, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > Would key echo accomplish the same thing?
> >
> > For my part, I turn off key echo and character echo in Orca. The only
> > time I want to know what function a key press does is if I'm in help or
> > tutorial mode. I find anything else to be just too chatty. This is why
> > if anything is implemented here, it should be configurable.
> >
> > On 04/06/12 11:24, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > > For my part, I'd like at least the option of hearing what my keystrokes do,
> > > including copying to or pasting from the clipboard.  If sighted users don't
> > > get that feedback, there may be a do-as-they-do argument not to have it, but
> > > I still might not be persuaded.  I'd always, always rather be annoyed by
> > > getting hit with too much information than by not having enough, though if
> > > and only if that is the single, stark choice.  :-)
> > >
> > > Al 
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: orca-list-bounces gnome org <mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org> [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome 
> > > org] On
> > > Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:07 PM
> > > To: orca-list
> > > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Announce copy to clipboard [was "Re: Some bugs with
> > > perhaps possible fixing in master branch"]
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Actually, NVDA doesn't say anything when you press control+c,
> > > control+v, or control+x, etc. Its like Orca in that sense that it
> > > doesn't say anything that isn't strictly necessary. For me that's a plus
> > > because I personally find Jaws far too verbose and have to configure it to
> > > filter out all the unnecessary messages. Since I have began using open
> > > source software like NVDA and Orca I realize what a relief not having too
> > > much information thrown at me really is.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/4/12, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com <mailto:chaltain gmail com>> wrote:
> > > > I use both Linux and Windows, and I never even missed this 
> > > > announcement until it came up on this list. I personally don't care to 
> > > > hear this announcement, although I guess if it were free to develop, 
> > > > it could always be made a configurable option. I'd put it pretty far 
> > > > down on the priority queue though.
> > > >
> > > > Does NVDA announce this? I use JAWS less and less these days. Does 
> > > > JAWS announce it when you set verbosity to the advanced setting?
> > > >
> > > > I'd be curious to know how much market research Freedom Scientific did 
> > > > before determining how features like this would work. I'm not making a 
> > > > judgment either way, I'm just curious.
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > The manual is at
> > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to
> > > help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
> > >
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> > > The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
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