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Re: [orca-list] Wine

Hi Storm,

Unfortunately, I don't know of any guides. I can try and write one up
I suppose. That said, you'll need a bit of sighted asistance with
getting it setup with the wine preferences dialog as I haven't found
an accessible way to do that from the command line. However, once you
get it setup you won't have to use alsa-oss to play games.

Cheers!


On 6/2/11, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 gmail com> wrote:

Hi,
Do you know of a guide I can use to set it up? If I can get rid of the
pulse lag, it's pretty much the only thing standing in the way of some
serious game  time lol.
Thanks
Storm
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On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:31 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:


Hi Storm,

As long as you correctly set wine up to use pulse audio audio games
work with Wine just as well as alsa. I think your problem is do to not
having wine correctly setup for pulse.

HTH

On 6/2/11, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 gmail com> wrote:

Hi,
I have never had any problems with alsa and wine, only pulse. If you use
alsa it should work great. It's one of the reasons I hate pulseaudio
lol.
Storm
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On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 19:38 +0200, Christian wrote:


Hi,
If I am going to use Alsa then with Wine, is that going to work?
Many thanks,
Christian


On 2011-06-02 at 13:18 Storm Dragon wrote:


Hi,
If you are using pulseaudio there is a lot of lag in the sound, about
half a second I think. It really takes the fun out. There's a
pulseaudio
patch for Wine made by someone, but when I installed it you have to go
set it to the pulse sound patch in the preferences which, of course,
are
not accessible. Judging by winetricks there should be some way to set
the sound driver using terminal. I have read through the source code
and
can't find it though. This doesn't mean it's not there, that's quite a
bit of code, and I may have over looked it. There are articles on my
blog about getting Wine up and running. There are instructions for
several games, and it would really be cool if people who install other
games leave a step by step how-to for installing it in the comments.
Thanks
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On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 12:05 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:


Hi,

The Winetricks script will allow you to install a number of Windows
components into Wine. DirectX 9.0C, Visual Basic 6, Visual C+ 2005
runtimes, Visual C+ 2008 runtimes,  .ET 2.0,  and various other
things
like that. Its a pretty quick and easy way to get a lot of the
dpendencies you need for accessible games. About the only dependency
not in Winetricks is Sapi 5.1 which you can grab from the
Kitchensinc
website and install.

On 6/2/11, Vojtch Polek <krecoun gmail com> wrote:

Hello Tom,
You mentioned kitchens inc games here, that they need only directx
and
sapi and then just install winkit.exe.
Can be directx offeret by winetricks used with them? Thank you,
Vojta

On 1.6.2011 19:50, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Christian,

Winetricks is an install script for Wine that helps people
download
and install various Windows packages such as the Visual Basic 6
runtimes, DirectX 9.0C libraries, Visual C+ redistributible
libraries, etc. Since many apps need these dependencies  it is a
quick
and dirty way to get everything you need for games and such in
one
quick and easy installation. Your distribution probably has a
winetricks package and some Linux distros have winetricks as a
part
of
the standard Wine installation.


As for DirectX you have to unpack the self-extracting file before
running dexsetup.exe with the /s switch. The file you download
from
Microsoft is a self-extracting zip file and it will not accept
the
/s
switch. Only the dexsetup.exe file instide the package will do
that
if
I remember correctly.

HTH


On 6/1/11, Christian <christian08 runbox com> wrote:

Hello,
Many thanks for that info.
The winetricks, what's that?
So I just download the dxwebsetup.exe and run it with the /s
option

with

wine, correct?
Many thanks,
Christian


On 2011-06-01 at 12:49 Thomas Ward wrote:


Hi,

Well, as an avid gamer and software developer I've had some
really
mixed results using wine for games. Here is basically what I
found
out.

First, one thing I discovered is game performance goes way down
when
emulated. For example, the game I'm developing, Mysteries of
the
Ancients,  ran terrible under wine. This might be a pulse
issue,
I"m
not sure, but the audio cut in and out, and certain things like
the
footstep sounds didn't play at all. Then, there was issues with
certain input devices like joysticks that didn't seem to work

through

wine. It was for various issues like that why I'm now
developing

Linux

specific ports of all of my new games using LibSDL and FMOD Ex.

Second, issue was installing dependencies and the games as
well.
To
get a game up and running such as Jim Kitchens games you have
to
install Sapi 5.1, which the installer doesn't talk, install
DirectX

8

via winetricks, and then run  his Winkit setup to finish adding
VB
dependancies etc. Then, if you want a game like Shades of Doom
or

GMA

Tank Commander you pretty much have to do alt+n through all the
dialogs to get through the setups. Its doable but less than
ideal.

That said there are sometimes work arounds for some of these
issues.
One thing is some apps such as DirectX can be installed using a

silent

install. If you pass the dexsetup.exe the /s switch it will
install
the entire thing without prompting you.If I'm not mistaken the
same
can be done for the Sapi 5.1 install as well. This makes it
easier

to

install dependencies as the /s silent install setup will just

install

the program using the defaults.

HTH
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