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Re: [orca-list] Wine

Hi,
Do you know of a guide I can use to set it up? If I can get rid of the pulse lag, it's pretty much the only thing standing in the way of some serious game  time lol.
Thanks
Storm
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On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 15:31 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: 
Hi Storm,

As long as you correctly set wine up to use pulse audio audio games
work with Wine just as well as alsa. I think your problem is do to not
having wine correctly setup for pulse.

HTH

On 6/2/11, Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 gmail com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have never had any problems with alsa and wine, only pulse. If you use
> alsa it should work great. It's one of the reasons I hate pulseaudio
> lol.
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> On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 19:38 +0200, Christian wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> If I am going to use Alsa then with Wine, is that going to work?
>> Many thanks,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> On 2011-06-02 at 13:18 Storm Dragon wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >If you are using pulseaudio there is a lot of lag in the sound, about
>> >half a second I think. It really takes the fun out. There's a pulseaudio
>> >patch for Wine made by someone, but when I installed it you have to go
>> >set it to the pulse sound patch in the preferences which, of course, are
>> >not accessible. Judging by winetricks there should be some way to set
>> >the sound driver using terminal. I have read through the source code and
>> >can't find it though. This doesn't mean it's not there, that's quite a
>> >bit of code, and I may have over looked it. There are articles on my
>> >blog about getting Wine up and running. There are instructions for
>> >several games, and it would really be cool if people who install other
>> >games leave a step by step how-to for installing it in the comments.
>> >Thanks
>> >Storm
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>> >On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 12:05 -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> The Winetricks script will allow you to install a number of Windows
>> >> components into Wine. DirectX 9.0C, Visual Basic 6, Visual C+ 2005
>> >> runtimes, Visual C+ 2008 runtimes,  .ET 2.0,  and various other things
>> >> like that. Its a pretty quick and easy way to get a lot of the
>> >> dpendencies you need for accessible games. About the only dependency
>> >> not in Winetricks is Sapi 5.1 which you can grab from the Kitchensinc
>> >> website and install.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/2/11, Vojtch Polek <krecoun gmail com> wrote:
>> >> > Hello Tom,
>> >> > You mentioned kitchens inc games here, that they need only directx
>> >> > and
>> >> > sapi and then just install winkit.exe.
>> >> > Can be directx offeret by winetricks used with them? Thank you,
>> >> > Vojta
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1.6.2011 19:50, Thomas Ward wrote:
>> >> >> Hello Christian,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Winetricks is an install script for Wine that helps people download
>> >> >> and install various Windows packages such as the Visual Basic 6
>> >> >> runtimes, DirectX 9.0C libraries, Visual C+ redistributible
>> >> >> libraries, etc. Since many apps need these dependencies  it is a
>> >> >> quick
>> >> >> and dirty way to get everything you need for games and such in one
>> >> >> quick and easy installation. Your distribution probably has a
>> >> >> winetricks package and some Linux distros have winetricks as a part
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the standard Wine installation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As for DirectX you have to unpack the self-extracting file before
>> >> >> running dexsetup.exe with the /s switch. The file you download from
>> >> >> Microsoft is a self-extracting zip file and it will not accept the
>> >> >> /s
>> >> >> switch. Only the dexsetup.exe file instide the package will do that
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> I remember correctly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HTH
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 6/1/11, Christian <christian08 runbox com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Hello,
>> >> >>> Many thanks for that info.
>> >> >>> The winetricks, what's that?
>> >> >>> So I just download the dxwebsetup.exe and run it with the /s option
>> >with
>> >> >>> wine, correct?
>> >> >>> Many thanks,
>> >> >>> Christian
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 2011-06-01 at 12:49 Thomas Ward wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Well, as an avid gamer and software developer I've had some really
>> >> >>>> mixed results using wine for games. Here is basically what I found
>> >> >>>> out.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> First, one thing I discovered is game performance goes way down
>> >> >>>> when
>> >> >>>> emulated. For example, the game I'm developing, Mysteries of the
>> >> >>>> Ancients,  ran terrible under wine. This might be a pulse issue,
>> >> >>>> I"m
>> >> >>>> not sure, but the audio cut in and out, and certain things like
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> footstep sounds didn't play at all. Then, there was issues with
>> >> >>>> certain input devices like joysticks that didn't seem to work
>> >through
>> >> >>>> wine. It was for various issues like that why I'm now developing
>> >Linux
>> >> >>>> specific ports of all of my new games using LibSDL and FMOD Ex.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Second, issue was installing dependencies and the games as well.
>> >> >>>> To
>> >> >>>> get a game up and running such as Jim Kitchens games you have to
>> >> >>>> install Sapi 5.1, which the installer doesn't talk, install
>> >> >>>> DirectX
>> >8
>> >> >>>> via winetricks, and then run  his Winkit setup to finish adding VB
>> >> >>>> dependancies etc. Then, if you want a game like Shades of Doom or
>> >GMA
>> >> >>>> Tank Commander you pretty much have to do alt+n through all the
>> >> >>>> dialogs to get through the setups. Its doable but less than ideal.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> That said there are sometimes work arounds for some of these
>> >> >>>> issues.
>> >> >>>> One thing is some apps such as DirectX can be installed using a
>> >silent
>> >> >>>> install. If you pass the dexsetup.exe the /s switch it will
>> >> >>>> install
>> >> >>>> the entire thing without prompting you.If I'm not mistaken the
>> >> >>>> same
>> >> >>>> can be done for the Sapi 5.1 install as well. This makes it easier
>> >to
>> >> >>>> install dependencies as the /s silent install setup will just
>> >install
>> >> >>>> the program using the defaults.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> HTH
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