Re: [orca-list] Have an useful method to try Gnome-shell with Orca, and an interesting question

[Piñeiro <apinheiro igalia com>]

From: Hammer Attila <hammera pickup hu>

> Piñeiro, very thank you the answer.
> I wroted my Prewious letter with last question, possible I not writing
> right understandable (my english is not always perfect). :-):-)

Don't worry, my english is also "special" some times ;)

> "> I newer see GNOME Shell development version with screen reader, so
> I
> > > don't no have in GNOME Shell similar menues with oldest applications,
> > > > > places and system menues?"
> So, I try writing this question another way:
> When I press Alt+F1 key combination for example under GNOME 2.32, have
> following main menus:
> 1. Applications.
> 2. Places.
> 3. System.
> In applications menu I found my installed applications, places menu
> have for example storage devices, in system menu have sistem
> maintenance related applications (for example preference tools and
> system administration applications).
> Have similar three main menu in GNOME Shell?

GNOME Shell uses a different approach to display the menus. Pressing
alt+f1 (or the activities button), you move to the overview, that
distributes all those items in a different way. Anyway, at this moment
they are working on a relayout of this view, so things could change in
the near-term.

For more information, gnome shell developers has a section on
live.gnome about about the design of gnome shell [1]

> You wroted:
> "GNOME Shell will not be only used on Ubuntu. But good question about
> this. Probably orca tutorial should be re-edited so:
> "  1. If you are using GNOME 2 panel:
>     "To get to the system menus press the alt+f1 key."
>   2. If you are using GNOME Shell
>     "To get to the overview press the alt-f1 key"
>   3. If you are using Unity
>     "To do <something> press the alt-f1 key"
> Very interesting. Technical possible ask in Orca what the actual used
> interface (Gnome Shell, Unity or Gnome 2 panel)?

Ah, I misunderstood you. I thought that you were talking about the
generic Orca documentation, but you are talking about the help on Orca
itself.

Anyway, yes I think that ask the interface being used is doable,
although not sure if this is the best solution.

> I am not see full clear: What the final time period or version when
> GNOME developers not keep now traditional presenting classical two
> panels schema and Metacity Window manager? The first GNOME 3.0 release
> prowide user choosing method to choose traditional UI interface and
> new GNOME Shell? Developers already not stopped Metacity and Panel
> Applets development?

In theory GNOME Shell will be the default for GNOME 3.0. GNOME 3.0
release will be (more or less) on April.

As you say, the idea is that the user could choose between one or the
other, but not sure how the user could do that. Probably this would be
a distribution issue.

About metacity and panel applets development: during GNOME 3.0 (and
right now AFAIK) will move to just maintenance mode. This means that
they will just fix some bugs if required (probably this means only
critical ones) and they will stop to add new features.

BR

[1] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design

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