Re: [orca-list] Question about installing Gnome on Archlinux



Hey hey,
I can get nome working fine on arch... Its when I switch to a console with ctrl-alt-f1 and do something with speakup. then I switch back to x with control-alt-f7 and I cann't do anything. Speakup just says bbbbb when moving the arrows. i'm told by sighted assistance that it shows a background with a cursor, but they are not able to do anything as well.
Xorg starts from udev and senses all modules fine. Not sure whats going on.

alonzo

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve holmes88 gmail com>
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Question about installing Gnome on Archlinux


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Hi Michael,

I think you are adding an extra layer of complexity here for the
starting setup.  When I did this, I did not mess with gdm at all.
Just get Arch booting fine with speakup and text consoles.  Then
install gnome and gnome-extra; I think the other dependencies will
resolve themselves without having to specify; at that worked for me
last year.  After the gnome packages are installed, then work on
getting into gnome by using 'startx' from a normal user.  From there,
try typing 'orca' from the alt-f2 run dialog.

On many distros, gdm has been very problematic including Slackware
(dropline) and Debian.  I only recently got gdm logins to talk within
the past 3 months or so and my write-up is on the wiki accordingly.
And with that, the location of where aat-spi-registryd changed with
gnome 2.30.  So that's why I suggest leaving gdm out of things until
you can manualy get into gnome and have Orca talk by using startx.

On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 12:06:36AM +0200, Christian wrote:
Hi Mike,
Many thanks for this info.
Will give it a try and see how it goes for me.
I am used to debian so this is a little different, but I look forward of doing this and see how it goes. Just a question, later on I may want to install some servers, like ProFTPD and on Debian when I installed it it was run as an own user, which is good.
Have you installed that?
Many thanks,
Christian

On 2010-04-05 at 22:13 Michael Whapples wrote:

>The quick instructions (shouldn't really differ from the docs).
>
>Install the following (may install more than you want but should get
>everything required): xorg, gnome gnome-extra xorg-video-drivers
>xorg-input-drivers gamin
>The following command should do that:
>pacman -S xorg gnome gnome-extra xorg-video-drivers xorg-input-drivers
>gamin
>
>Ensure the things you want to start at boot up are added to the daemons
>array in the /etc/rc.conf file. You need hal for detection of hardware
>like USB drives, you want gdm for graphical login. The daemons array is
>the line beginning
>DAEMONS=(
>put the required daemons between the open and close brackets on that
>line (I put hal and gdm after network and with hal first).
>
>If you want a non-US keymap in gnome then copy the file
>/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi to
>/etc/hal/fdi/policy/ and then edit the file searching for ">us<"
>(without the quote marks). Change the us to whatever your country code
>is (NOTE: It may differ from that for the text console, the British
>layout for text console is uk but in this file it should be gb).
>
>Optionally set gnome to auto login after a length of time, so in
>/etc/gdm/custom.conf make sure the following block appears (NOTE: some
>of this might already exist, my system had the section headings).
>[daemon]
>TimedLoginEnable=true
>TimedLogin=mike
>TimedLoginDelay=5
>
>Where I put "mike" in the above change it for your username and where I
>give 5 on the TimedLoginDelay line change it to whatever number of
>seconds you want before auto login.
>
>Now this is where I got stuck, start gnome and try and start orca, it
>didn't work as smooth as it should for me. May be try and run orca in
>text mode in a text console to set it up. Where orca did work for me was
>in a gnome-terminal, so try that if everything else fails (unfortunately
>getting orca running in gnome terminal does rely on you typing correct
>to get gnome-terminal, etc).
>
>Good luck, I'll be interested to know if everything just works for you
>or if you also hit problems.
>
>Michael Whapples
>On -10/01/37 20:59, Christian wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> OK, so I will be installing Arch later tonight and going to use the
>Speakup CD in this case and install BRLTTY afterwards.
>> Going to follow the beginners guide when installing X and Gnome. Just >> a >quick quesiton if there's anything I should keep in mind when >installing
>this?
>> I know that Michael is working on a podcast on this thing, but was >> just >wondering if there are any special things I should be aware of as a >blind
>user when installing this.
>> Many thanks,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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