Re: [orca-list] Moving forward on Firefox

[Jacob Schmude <j schmude gmail com>]

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Hi Steve
Should have clarified I guess, I did mean the organize bookmarks dialog
and I still can't seem to reproduce your problem. I can cut/copy/paste
bookmarks with no trouble, and focus doesn't move to the more button at
all unless I tab to it deliberately.
Are you using the Mozilla binaries? That's what I'm using. If not,
perhaps the bug is actually in one of Firefox's dependencies which
hasn't been updated in Arch? Xulrunner or something similar, or gecko
perhaps? If you're not using the Mozilla binaries, what is the full
about string in your Firefox? There's something here if we can track it
down.

On 04/06/2010 01:22 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> When you say bookmarks dialog, what exactly are you meaning? I just
> went back to verify and I even turned off the grab focus, though I
> understand that isn't related here, and no matter what I do, the
> "Organize Bookmarks" dialog still doesn't do it for me! When I get
> into the bookmarks list where you can cut/copy/paste, as soon as I
> press down arrow, the caret and focus jump to the "More" button every
> time! 
>
> I also checked out this situation over in MS Windows with FF 3.6.3 and
> Window-Eyes and the same problem exists there too.  As far as I'm
> concerned, this thing is severely broken.  I finally raddled some
> cages on the Mozilla bug that was filed a while back and people are
> finally moving around over there to look at it so hopefully this may
> be fixed once and for all.  
>
> Now the bookmarks menu itself is no problem I can go in there and
> select a bookmark to jump to any time but it is the organization
> dialog that breaks every time for me.  Now I haven't tried the save
> bookmarks dialog in a while; that might be working- not sure yet.
>
> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:36:51PM -0400, Jacob Schmude wrote:
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> > Hi Steve
> > As of a few minor updates ago, the bookmarks dialog doesn't seem to be a
> > problem anymore. I'm running Firefox 3.6.3 on my Ubuntu systems and can
> > manipulate bookmarks just fine. This was a minor update to 3.6.2, though
> > I don't know exactly when. In fact, with the caret navigation now
> > working pretty well (sorry Bill, haven't had a chance yet to test your
> > patches out) and the bookmarks problem fixed, I've moved over to 3.6
> > completely. There are certain situations where 3.6 gives me noteable
> > performance improvements particularly when using some types of
> > structural navigation on complex pages.
>
>
> > On 04/05/2010 07:47 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:18:48AM -0400, Bill Cox wrote:
> > > > Yes, I believe the code that has been so problematic has been mostly
> > > > rewritten, and is now in much  better shape.  It is possible that we
> > > > could disable "Grab focus on objects when navigating", and "Use Orca
> > > > caret navigation".  I don't know what causes delays in Orca when
> > > > navigating large web pages, but I do think we need to improve the
> > > > performance if possible.
> > >
> > > Yes, performance is a big issue.  I'm quite new to the developer side
> > > of Orca as I'm just learning python and using git with more advanced
> > > commands than 'clone'.  But thanks to the option to turn off grab
> > > focus, recently added to Orca, that basic part of FF 3.6 is workable
> > > again.  But another major concern for me has been the inability to
> > > organize bookmarks in 3.6x.  When you arrow around in the bookmarks
> > > organize dialog, focus constantly jumps out to the "More" button.  I
> > > find it nearly impossible to use that feature and furthermore, if you
> > > wish to save a bookmark, you can't pick and choose destination folders
> > > without the same navigation problems in that dialog.  For this reason,
> > > I've been sticking to version 3.5 for now.  I do realize I can't stay
> > > there forever so these things need to be worked out.
> > >
> > > I do feel aprehensive about branching off to a stand-alone version of
> > > Firefox however; how easy would it be to get the
> > > improvement/corrections rolled back into the mainline product?  I
> > > don't wanna see us stuck with some "blind version" of the browser.
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