Re: [orca-list] Capital, Capital, Capital



Hello,

Bohdan R. Rau  wrote / napÃsal(a):
Short test.

Gnome-terminal. While typing, Orca changes pitch for capital letters and
speaks character (without 'capital'). But when I try to insert character
with special key sequence (shift_right-alt_= a for 'Ä' on my keyboard)
Orca speaks nothing. While editing text in gedit, Orca says 'a', not
'Ä'. Accented letters coming from native key combination (right-alt_a
for 'Ä' on my keyboard) are spoken properly.

While moving with left/right, Orca also changes pitch for capitals, but
speaks one-character string, not character (it's very simple to check in
Polish, because string "w" and character 'w' are pronounced differently,
same for "z" and 'z'). Also for 'Å' I hear proper 'si', but for 'Ã' a
little strange 'o acute' instead of 'u kreskowane' (Polish special name
for 'Ã', which is known by eSpeak). Same for gedit.

In Firefox when moving by character, Orca sends (probably)
single-character string instead of character. So it's not possible to
distinguish between "Ã" and "u" (same pronunciation in Polish).


In flat review mode, Orca changes pitch for capitals, but also says
"capital a" for 'A' (in fact eSpeak gets:
<say-as interpret-as="tts:char">A</say-as>). Accented letters are spoken
properly, but "military spelling" is completely unusable.

This looks as you haven't applied any patches to orca, right?
Because Tomas addresed the issue with firefox and default script which should also affect gnome-terminal. Patch which fixes this for me is in this report: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520494 . Currently I have found when deleting characters using backspace or delete key the same behaviour can be seen. I think I have fixed it for edit controls but gnome-terminal script handles backspace key differently so I have to find out how and I can send a patch then.


oh BTW I have got capletrecognition commented out in speech-dispatcher config and I had to convert characters to lowercase in speechdispatcherfactory.py to force the word "capital" to go away.


I think speaking of keys is somewhat limited in the speech-dispatcher backend of orca so I am not going to wonder about that now. It's supposed to process printable characters only but e.g. double quotes (ascii char 34) is not processed and orca processing is taking place.


Peter



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