Re: [orca-list] Speaking alerts in Firefox and patches that need testing

[Hermann <meinelisten onlinehome de>]

Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hi Hermann.
>
> Thanks for testing this!
>
> > I only hear that the installation of Webvisum has been prevented, that's
> > all. If I didn't know the dialog, I would not be able to figure out what
> > to do.
>
> That was the decision of our UI lead, Mike.  To be honest, I rather
> concur with him.  Here's my thinking, for what it's worth:
>
> Theres a finite number of these type of alerts -- at least at the
> moment.  I'm aware only of the "remember this password" and the "firefox
> has blocked this" ones.  They have buttons that are consistent and which
> have consistent hotkeys.  And if you're interested in navigating to the
> alert, it's Control+L plus 2 or 3 presses of Tab. (i.e. you can get
> there relatively quickly if you care to do so and don't know what the
> hotkeys are).
OK, if you know that. But what about a newbie, who completely gets 
confused by such alerts?

> If for each button we'd speak the button name, the fact that it's a
> button, and the hotkey, the button string spoken would be about as long
> as the alert message itself, and once you've become familiar with that
> alert you already know what the buttons are. Thus reading the button
> names and hotkeys strikes me as unnecessary verbiage.
What about pressing the control key, if you are familiar with this 
dialog? Again: Think of the newbies.

> All of this said:
>
> 1. I could certainly add the speaking of the buttons if the user
> community feels that is what should be done.  Regardless, however:
>
> 2. Firefox doesn't expose hotkeys to us at the moment.  Until they do,
> you will still need to physically move focus to the alert or obtain the
> hotkeys through some other means. :-(  That Mozilla bug can be found
> here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440568
OK, that's a problem, but we are hopeful that this gets fixed in the 
near future :-)
Hermann