Re: [orca-list] Alsa-OSS Politics?

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
Tomas, I think it is possible from what you describe for
speech-dispatcher to meet the needs of a "gnome orientated system" for
multiple users. My example of users using speakup, and the suggestions
related to that, aren't actually from a need I have, and I don't know if
that is what ubuntu needs, its just I like to try and solve a problem
fully, rather than try and solve immediate issues (which may make future
improvements harder to implement).

Another thing that should be considered in this, is which is a better
default? I personally think speech-dispatcher is generally better for
most. I am trying to imagine cases where different users would want
different audio outputs used by SD, most systems have one sound card,
and in my case where there are more than one there is a specific reason
for the second card (IE. better audio output (so as to replace the
other, which may not be removable as it may be intergrated on the
motherboard), or where a sound card may be bought for speech output so
as not to affect normal audio output, etc), or the system may be mainly
used by an individual user (so multi-user support isn't needed). If
people feel gnome-speech really can provide for some users where SD
doesn't meet the requirements (I am struglling to think of this), then
ubuntu can still have gnome-speech as optional, rather than default (IE.
SD and gnome-speech change places). I would feel that even SD as a
system service, SD would meet most users needs, but may be I have
mis-judged the users of ubuntu.

From
Michael Whapples
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 16:09 +0100, Tomas Cerha wrote:
> Michael Whapples wrote:
> > I know there are files run specific to users at start up, but is there
> > files run when a user logs out, which could stop speech-dispatcher?
> > Possibly related to the above, what would happen if two users were
> > logged in on different terminals? They would need different ports for
> > speech-dispatcher to use, and so would the clients be able to cope?
>
> Hello Michael, since Ubuntu doesn't support speakup, I don't think they
> will solve the multiuser issue for a text console.  Thus it may remain
> as it is now (with Speech Dispatcher started by an init script).  In
> Gnome, SD would most likely be started by gnome-session, similarly as
> Gnome Speech.  These things are definitely solvable, but I would not
> like to go into much detail now, since we still don't know which way
> Ubuntu decides to go.  The "per user SD instance" is just one option
> which I suggested...  Let's solve the problems as they arise.
>
> > I am interested as to why the audio output is in module
> > configuration and not speech-dispatcher's main configuration? You may
> > have a perfectly good reason for this, if so please enlighten me as the
> > reason seems to be escaping me.
>
> I don't know the exact reasons for this.  If you are interested, try
> asking at the Speech Dispatcher list.
>
> Best regards
>
> Tomas