Re: how to get network manager to use a different interface

[Dan Williams <dcbw redhat com>]

On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 07:18 -0500, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> IMO, that message is the problem. My understanding is that NM cannot 
> support any card that wpa_supplicant does not support, which uses Wireless 
> Extensions (which is I belive the succsessor to /proc/net/wireless).

You're mostly correct :)  I have _very_ little faith that anything
that's not in the upstream kernel actually has correct Wireless
Extensions support.  I have not seen any vendor driver actually support
Wireless Extensions correctly, while almost all in-kernel drivers are
pretty good.  So it's quite unlikely that NM will work with drivers that
are non in the mainline kernel or in wireless-2.6 or wireless-dev git
trees.

(with the exceptions of ndiswrapper and possibly linuxwlandriver, which
have acceptable WE-19 and higher support)

Dan

> ...... Original Message .......
> On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:35:31 +0100 "pete phillips" <pete smtl co uk> wrote:
> >Hi Dan
> >
> >    Dan> Have you manually configured the card using the Ubuntu network
> >    Dan> config tools?  Ubuntu has a distro-specific patch that makes NM
> >    Dan> ignore any card you've manually configured.
> >
> >Yes I did originally, but I have commented all interfaces except
> >loopback out of the /etc/network/interfaces now. However I did this
> >after installing NM.
> >
> >    Dan> Furthermore, what version of the rt61 driver, and is that a
> >    Dan> mac80211-based driver?  It may be that the rt61 driver isn't
> >    Dan> quite ready for prime-time, as the mac80211 stack (if that's
> >    Dan> what rt61 is based off of) isn't quite ready for prime-time
> >    Dan> yet, though it's getting there.
> >
> >I'm using the drivers from the ralink site
> >    
> >    http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
> >    RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0 
> >
> >(not tried the rt2x00.serialmonkey.com driver - let me know if you think
> >that may be the issue).  I don't know what the mac80211 refers to I'm
> >afraid. Grepped the RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0/Module directory for
> >mac802 and didn't come up with anything.
> >
> >When I plug the card in I get:
> >
> >	May 26 09:17:27 localhost kernel: [17246128.900000] ra0 (WE) : Driver 
> using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
> >
> >	May 26 09:17:27 localhost NetworkManager: <debug 
> info>^I[1180167447.552777] nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal 
> udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1814_302').
> >
> >Hmm - could that proc/net message be the issue ? 
> >
> >    Dan> Can you plug the rt61 card in and then run 'lsmod' ?
> >
> >OK - not sure whether you wanted the whole lot or just to see the rt61
> >line, so here is the lot.
> >
> >
> >Module                  Size  Used by
> >sg                     37404  0 
> >sd_mod                 22656  0 
> >usb_storage            75072  0 
> >libusual               17040  1 usb_storage
> >ipw2100                75828  0 
> >ieee80211              35272  1 ipw2100
> >ieee80211_crypt         7552  1 ieee80211
> >battery                11652  0 
> >ac                      6788  0 
> >thermal                15624  0 
> >fan                     6020  0 
> >button                  7952  0 
> >8139too                29056  0 
> >binfmt_misc            13448  1 
> >rfcomm                 42260  0 
> >hidp                   34176  2 
> >l2cap                  27136  10 rfcomm,hidp
> >bluetooth              53476  5 rfcomm,hidp,l2cap
> >ipv6                  272288  10 
> >i915                   21632  2 
> >drm                    74644  3 i915
> >af_packet              24584  4 
> >speedstep_centrino      9760  1 
> >cpufreq_userspace       5408  0 
> >cpufreq_stats           7744  0 
> >freq_table              6048  2 speedstep_centrino,cpufreq_stats
> >cpufreq_powersave       2944  0 
> >cpufreq_ondemand        8876  1 
> >cpufreq_conservative     8712  0 
> >video                  17540  0 
> >tc1100_wmi              8324  0 
> >sbs                    16804  0 
> >sony_acpi               6412  0 
> >pcc_acpi               14080  0 
> >i2c_ec                  6272  1 sbs
> >i2c_core               23424  1 i2c_ec
> >hotkey                 11556  0 
> >dev_acpi               12292  0 
> >container               5632  0 
> >asus_acpi              17688  0 
> >dm_crypt               13704  0 
> >dm_mod                 62872  1 dm_crypt
> >fuse                   43912  0 
> >rt61                  254468  0 
> >sbp2                   24584  0 
> >scsi_mod              144648  4 sg,sd_mod,usb_storage,sbp2
> >lp                     12964  0 
> >pcmcia                 40380  0 
> >yenta_socket           28812  3 
> >rsrc_nonstatic         15360  1 yenta_socket
> >snd_intel8x0           34844  1 
> >snd_ac97_codec         97696  1 snd_intel8x0
> >snd_ac97_bus            3456  1 snd_ac97_codec
> >snd_pcm_oss            47360  0 
> >snd_mixer_oss          19584  1 snd_pcm_oss
> >joydev                 11200  0 
> >pcmcia_core            43924  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
> >8139cp                 24832  0 
> >mii                     6912  2 8139too,8139cp
> >tsdev                   9152  0 
> >snd_pcm                84612  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> >snd_timer              25348  1 snd_pcm
> >snd                    58372  8 
> snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
> >soundcore              11232  1 snd
> >snd_page_alloc         11400  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
> >shpchp                 42144  0 
> >pci_hotplug            32828  1 shpchp
> >irda                  214332  0 
> >parport_pc             37796  1 
> >parport                39496  2 lp,parport_pc
> >crc_ccitt               3200  1 irda
> >intel_agp              26012  1 
> >agpgart                34888  3 drm,intel_agp
> >psmouse                41352  0 
> >serio_raw               8452  0 
> >pcspkr                  4352  0 
> >evdev                  11392  2 
> >usbhid                 45152  0 
> >ext3                  142856  2 
> >jbd                    62228  1 ext3
> >ohci1394               37040  0 
> >ieee1394              306104  2 sbp2,ohci1394
> >ehci_hcd               34696  0 
> >uhci_hcd               24968  0 
> >usbcore               134912  6 
> usb_storage,libusual,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
> >ide_generic             2432  0 
> >ide_disk               18560  3 
> >piix                   11780  1 
> >generic                 6276  0 
> >processor              31560  2 thermal,speedstep_centrino
> >fbcon                  41504  0 
> >tileblit                3840  1 fbcon
> >font                    9344  1 fbcon
> >bitblit                 7168  1 fbcon
> >softcursor              3328  1 bitblit
> >vesafb                  9244  0 
> >capability              5896  0 
> >commoncap               8704  1 capability
> >
> >
> >
> >Pete
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