Re: [Muine] Re: Muine UI idea for the future

[Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>]

Hi,

On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 13:34, tvon etria org wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 02:51:07AM -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote:
> [on the topic of having volume control in the app and on the panel]
> > > still it is a little disturbing. We already have one in the
> > > GNOME panel (by default, so it's somebody's own fault
> > > if they remove it). That's exactly what makes Windows
> > > so confusing to new users: the myriards of ways to do
> > > the same thing.
> > 
> > Erm, changing the volume of the player should not change the volume of the
> > whole system, and so a player should have its own volume control which
> > controls the application, not the system.
> 
> I think this is an interesting topic.  
> 
> After a little thought, I think the "right" answer would be to have a
> relative volume control.  Something that would look similar to a balance
> control, with the middle being "system default" and left/right being
> "quieter/louder", relative to the system sound.
> 
> Personally I hate my volume setup (which is unmodified from the
> default AFAIK).  The panel volume control adjusts the 'main' volume,
> which I understand effects any other volumes.  App volume controls I
> think adjust PCM, and I have no idea what that is.  I'm not complaining
> about the sound system so much here as I am about the users interaction
> with it.  I'm not an idiot, and I know a fair amout about computers, I
> simply never bothered to take any time to research the sound system or
> what 'PCM' means.  Honestly  I don't care what it means, I don't _work_
> with audio - I _use_ it - so why should I have to know?  
> 
> Anyways, most people don't care that an application volume is at
> 'the slider around the top' while the main volume is set with
> 'the slider around the middle', they want amovie to be a
> little easier to hear than the system beeps, or a music player to be a
> little louder than the game they are playing, or perhaps an Evolution
> alarm to be the 'loudest'....  

The Muine volume thingie already sets the application volume (just
purely the application volume, not PCM or anything.. ), and it's default
setting is 50%.. so there ye go. See also my other mail on volume
handing for arguments whyit should be there..

Cheers,

Jorn

> 
> Waddaya think?
> 
> -Tom