Re: table layout
- From: Vincent LADEUIL <v ladeuil alplog fr>
- To: gtk-perl-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: table layout
- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:35:17 +0200
"Joe" == Joe Smith <jes martnet com> writes:
Joe> Daniel Kasak wrote:
>> Beast wrote:
>>> Seriously, is there any seriuos project written using
>>> gtk-perl? I found very little number of projects in SF or
>>> freshmeat, most of them are in alpha stage or left
>> ... I honestly don't know why there aren't more projects
>> though. Perl just seems like the perfect language, gtk2
>> the best toolkit ( I won't say perfect here ), and the
>> gtk2-perl bindings are excellent. ...
Joe> IME, delivery of any Perl _application_ is a
Have you guys decided that I should spend my day writing soaps
about my current project or what ?
Ok. Note that this is off-topic on this list.
My current project... bla bla bla.
And that was on Solaris. Then the client decided that he needed a
"small part" of it on windows.
Great, I thought to myself, here I am trapped, how will I manage
to get a perl interpreter installed throughout the world in so
many companies partnering with this big PABX supplier ?
Answer : search.cpang.org.
Module : PAR
Home Page: http://par.perl.org/index.cgi
Example: pp script_using_a_bunch_of_random_modules.pl -o appli.exe
The preceding command will produce an executable program,
embedding its own private perl interpreter and all the necessary
modules (and yes XSs too).
At its first execution it will extract himself in a temporary directory.
The subsequent executions can reused that cached extraction.
Simple, efficient, magic :)
Joe> Anything robust enough to be used by 'normal' users
Joe> (rather than developers or sysadmins) invariably has a
Joe> number of dependencies, often needs some XS glue to some
Joe> other library, etc. Gtk & a GUI layer only compound the
Tk works like a charm. I didn't have enough time on my hands to
try gtk, but I will try at the first occasion (before the end of
the year with a bit of luck). And yes I keep muppet's remark
about gtk wanting to be installed at a fixed location in mind.
Joe> Lyricue looks sweet, but it would probably take me
Joe> several hours of work, and some serious Perl/system
Joe> knowledge to get all the dependencies installed and get
Joe> the app working. If I want to install it on another
Joe> system, I start over again from scratch.
Boring isnt't it ? Oh, the joys of PAR :)
Joe> This isn't nearly such problem for 'internal'
Joe> applications, to be used by developers, or where
Joe> wizardly installation support is available, and I think
Joe> that's where Gtk2-Perl is most successful.
Besides the afore-mentionned pp, PAR provide '.par' files similar
to '.jar' files in Java.
Joe> It would be extremely helpful if Perl had some way to
Joe> bundle up _everything_ needed for an app, extract &
Joe> configure it in some temp dir, point PERL5LIB to it and
Joe> run right from there. Likely, knowing Perl hackers,
Joe> someone already has that working, I just don't know
Joe> about it!
So why didn't you search for it ? google may be a standard for
the rest, but for perl nothing can beat CPAN :)
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