Re: no "File", "Edit, "Help" strings in upper left

[Gary Kline <kline thought org>]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:06:00PM -0700, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:06:00 -0700
> From: Michael Torrie <torriem gmail com>
> Subject: Re: no "File", "Edit, "Help" strings in upper left
> CC: gtk-app-devel-list gnome org
>
> On 01/29/2012 06:33 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
>
> >     Do you really mean that is your coming appa you will have no
> >     "File, Edit, Whatever, Help" bars?  Or am i misunderstanding
> >     the name of menubar?  i like at least File because it
> >     usually gives a way of quitting the app?
>
> What he means is that more and more apps are choosing other ways to
> present the user with options.  Like context-sensitive toolbars.  Or
> recently Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu demonstrated a system that you
> could type or speak and it would search for commands in the app (really
> a fancy way of searching a menu so menus are still relevant).
>
> In my little app I shared with you I chose not to have a menubar because
> it wouldn't have served any purpose.  The current feature set is
> entirely reached via the UI in the main window.
>
> To close an app you could set up a shortcut key, usually Ctrl-Q, or
> sometimes Ctrl-W (window close) to terminate your app.  Or let someone
> just hit the (X) button.  Either way, very few people probably use
> File->Quit to quit.  I know I don't.  I use Ctrl-Q or Ctrl-W most of the
> time.  Or close the window with the decoration.
>
> Menus do have their place of course.


        i do, use the File->quit, but as a last resort :-|  a more
        rational use of a top menubar would be to give the user the
        choice to look at the options that espeak has: from gender
        to speed of speech to pitch.  Another would be to offer a
        help summary.  

        since the menubar feature works on debian, that may be the
        best place to do further devel work.  it is painful using
        ubuntu as a gtk development platform.


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