Re: no "File", "Edit, "Help" strings in upper left

[Gary Kline <kline thought org>]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:14:11AM +0100, David Ne??as wrote:
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:14:11 +0100
> From: David Ne??as <yeti physics muni cz>
> Subject: Re: no "File", "Edit, "Help" strings in upper left
> To: Gary Kline <kline thought org>
> Cc: Michael Torrie <torriem gmail com>, gtk-app-devel-list gnome org
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 02:36:03PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> >     i've seen this  and don't like it; i'd rather have every
> >     Konsole have its own menubar.  same with other GUI apps.
>
> Me too but OS X does this.  Aparrently, it does not matter nowadays
> whether something makes sense or not but only whether OS X does it...
>
> Some methods how to disable it are described here:
>
>     http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
>
> In short, get rid of it globally:
>
>     sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt
>
> or disable it while running specific program:
>
>     UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= program args...
>
> >     at least for ubuntu linux, i
> >     need the `gtk-config --cflags [etc]` 
>
> You definitely do NOT need gtk-config.  It was used in Gtk+ 1.x and has
> been replaced with pkg-config.
>
> >     it may be hthat ubuntu is moving toward gtk-3.0   and
> >     dropping the older releases.  {?}
>
> It should not be directly related to these issues although Gtk+ 3.x
> indeed will bring new methods to do unexpected things to menus.
>
> For me this all means classical application menubars are dead and I will
> not use them in newly written programs at all.


        Do you really mean that is your coming appa you will have no
        "File, Edit, Whatever, Help" bars?  Or am i misunderstanding
        the name of menubar?  i like at least File because it
        usually gives a way of quitting the app?

        gary

        ps: more coming re above topics!


> Yeti

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