Re: no "File", "Edit, "Help" strings in upper left

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:14:11AM +0100, David Ne??as wrote:
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:14:11 +0100
From: David Ne??as <yeti physics muni cz>
Subject: Re: no "File", "Edit, "Help" strings in upper left
To: Gary Kline <kline thought org>
Cc: Michael Torrie <torriem gmail com>, gtk-app-devel-list gnome org

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 02:36:03PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
    i've seen this  and don't like it; i'd rather have every
    Konsole have its own menubar.  same with other GUI apps.

Me too but OS X does this.  Aparrently, it does not matter nowadays
whether something makes sense or not but only whether OS X does it...

Some methods how to disable it are described here:

In short, get rid of it globally:

    sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt

or disable it while running specific program:

    UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= program args...

    at least for ubuntu linux, i
    need the `gtk-config --cflags [etc]` 

You definitely do NOT need gtk-config.  It was used in Gtk+ 1.x and has
been replaced with pkg-config.

    it may be hthat ubuntu is moving toward gtk-3.0   and
    dropping the older releases.  {?}

It should not be directly related to these issues although Gtk+ 3.x
indeed will bring new methods to do unexpected things to menus.

For me this all means classical application menubars are dead and I will
not use them in newly written programs at all.

        Do you really mean that is your coming appa you will have no
        "File, Edit, Whatever, Help" bars?  Or am i misunderstanding
        the name of menubar?  i like at least File because it
        usually gives a way of quitting the app?


        ps: more coming re above topics!


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