Re: The good, the bad, the insane

[Diego Fernandez <aiguo fernandez gmail com>]

sorry for double posting forgot to include that in the end it's the
person's choice whether they want to 'waste' the few seconds it takes
to shutdown/bootup or not.  The user will look at the value of
shutting down and saving some energy vs. the few seconds they might
have to wait to boot up and make the choice that is right for them.

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Diego Fernandez
<aiguo fernandez gmail com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Martin Häsler
> <martin haesler googlemail com> wrote:
>> On 05/27/11 17:12, Owen Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 08:53 -0700, Diego Fernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well then couldn't there just be a 'Power Off' and 'Suspend' option in
>>>> the menu then?  That doesn't seem too confusing... Suspend = "I'll be
>>>> back in a bit and want to get back to what I was doing".  Power Off =
>>>> "I'm done for a while and just want to turn the computer off".  Of
>>>> course the power off option should follow current behaviour of asking
>>>> wether one wants to power off or restart.
>>>
>>> OK, let's assume the user gets that distinction clear in their mind.
>>> Do they then realize that Suspend is a quite reasonable thing (*) to do
>>> when "back in a bit" means "tomorrow"? Usually, no, they don't.
>>>
>>> - Owen
>>>
>>> (*) I'm willing to say that turning your computer off at the wall
>>>     every night is *also* reasonable for certain users, but if you
>>>     crunch the numbers it's spending a lot of time for something that
>>>     isn't very high on anybody's carbon footprint..
>>>
>>>
>> Please feel free to crunch the numbers, because I've got not idea, what
>> you are talking of.
>> Also a computer takes < 10 seconds to power off, how is that a lot of time ?
>>
>> And of course it is not reasonable at all to suspend when back in a bit
>> means tomorrow.
>> That is a waste of energy and money.
>>
>> martin
>>
>
> +1
>
> I just don't see how having the two options on the menu creates any
> problems or confusion or anything really, I do however see a huge
> problem with hiding such a basic function as shutting down.
>
> --
> Diego Fernandez - 爱国
>



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