Re: On dynamic text expansion in message tray when an icon is hovered

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Giovanni Campagna
<scampa giovanni gmail com> wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 26/06/2011 alle 14.24 +0200, Marcel ha scritto:
>> Am 26.06.2011 14:13, schrieb Tim Cuthbertson:
>> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
>> > <pclouds gmail com> wrote:
>> >> Does anybody else find it difficult to click on an icon in message
>> >> tray? If I just move my pointer a little bit further to next icon on
>> >> the right of the icon I want to select, the icon will be moved and it
>> >> takes more time to move my mouse back and forth to locate to my icon.
>> >>
>> >> Why can't we just use tooltip instead and make icon placement more persistent?
>> >> --
>> >> Duy
>> >
>> > Agreed. This makes it impractical to actually use the notification
>> > area without having to be really careful. I assume there's a redesign
>> > of that area in the pipeline (it seems unloved, and the whole panel
>> > applets issue still seems somewhat under-developed), so hopefully
>> > that's going to be fixed as part of that work? (I'm just guessing, I
>> > have no idea if any such work is even planned).
>> People always said that clicking the text works fine, therefore the
>> jumping icons are not a problem. With Pidgin however, clicking the text
>> just shows the recent notification (which made me want to open the
>> contact list!) and doesn't behave like clicking the Pidgin tray icon
>> directly. That only works as intended when there's no recent notification.
>> (Should this possibly go into a bug report? I've no overview which bugs
>> are known...)
> Actually, this behaviour is intended. It was chosen to account for
> programs like gwibber and liferea, that have both a notification and a
> status icon. Without that, it is impossible to access the notification
> from the message tray.

I thought that we should show a separate icon for the notification in that case.

> The right fix is to detect the persistence capability in libnotify and
> use that instead of status icons; support for systray is just for
> compatibility with existing apps.
> Giovanni
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