Re: Thumbs up!

["Bojan Smojver" <bojan rexursive com>]

------- Original message -------
> From: David Prieto <frandavid100 gmail com>
> To: bojan rexursive com
> Cc: awilliam redhat com, gnome-shell-list gnome org
> Sent: 26.4.'11,  21:38
>
> Bojan,
>
> Somewhat.
> > In Gnome 2, each open app is a box on a taskbar. In Windows 7, that box
> > also has window representations once you get over it, so you can see
> > what is in each window. So, that's visually different.
>
>
> Yep. These representations (which I had totally forgotten, by the way) 
> are
> still tinier than Overview windows though, and they're still placed
> regardless of the original window's location. My point stands.
>
>
> > Not necessarily.
> >
> > Once you reposition windows with expose, they are not easily
> > recognisable as the ones you are normally seeing in your original view.
> > That's the problem with expose - that's why you only use it when you get
> > in trouble with clutter.
>
> And yet, you don't seem to have any trouble using taskbars. That's 
> curious
> considering that they have the same problem, only worse.

The smart taskbar in Windows 7 and expose solve the same problem 
differently. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

Gnome Shell gives the behavior of expose when no such behaviour is 
requested or desired.

> I use the word "problem" because it's what it seems to be for you. Please
> bear in mind that it's no problem from where I see it.

Don't worry, I got that. :-)

> > For me to go and pick a new application to run, I have to endure the
> > expose, which I don't want/need to endure.
>
> If I get into the overview and there are no overlapping windows, I still
> > see expose view. Which, again, I have to endure.
>
> If I want to move my windows to another workplace by dragging, I again
> > have to endure expose.
>
> I am sorry that having to endure expose is so painful to you. I don't 
> know
> what else to say, I'm afraid I can't relate.

Look, the situation is simple: I never asked for expose, yet I'm exposed to 
unnecessary animation of it anyway.

> > And I don't really know where my window will end
> > up on another workspace, because I'll have to adjust it later.
>
> Sorry - not true. If you open the Overview and drag a window to another
> workspace, it's placed in the exact same position it was before. You do 
> know
> where it will end up.

OK, so the functionality of overview for moving windows is as good as right 
click, move to workspace. If there was no expose, one could move the window 
to _another_ location in a different workspace.

--
Bojan