Re: Translation application on GSoC

[Fran Dieguez <fran dieguez mabishu com>]

On mié 05 jun 2013 14:25:47 CEST, Gil Forcada Codinachs wrote:
> 2013/6/5 Marcos Chavarría Teijeiro <chavarria1991 gmail com
> <mailto:chavarria1991 gmail com>>
>
>     Hi!
>
>     Thank you for your congratulations and for your ideas!
>
>     Now I have a huge list of interesting features! :D However as Gil
>     Forcada says, GSoC is just
>     a summer so I cannot implement all this features in this summer.
>     On the other hand is important
>     to know what is out there so I can make a very extensible design.
>
>     The "previewing" feature would be very very interesting and useful
>     but I don't really think I'm going to
>     have time for that this summer but is a must for the future ;).
>
>     Project vision has been requested almost for all translators so I
>     will include it in my project.
>
>
>
>         * Auto-translation, including the feature for auto-translation
>         of mass files.
>
>
>     I don't what you mean by "auto-translation". Does it mean using
>     some external (Google
>     translate) or local (using the TM) tool to translate some strings?
>
>
> Just speaking for me... I would say that whenever I open a file (or
> choose the option in the project about that) all untranslated strings
> are filled with a 100% match (maybe 90% is ok too) and marked as fuzzy
> so that they can be reviewed.
>
> As for the source of matching: local TM I would say or on-line if
> there's an option for on-line TMs.
>
>     About the user interface my idea is a three column design quite
>     similar to the original Gtranslator
>     application but where the plugins' windows should be detachable.
>     What do you think?
>
>
> I like the current approach that allows you to move the panels around,
> still something like Virtaal that allows you to focus on the
> translation (having the translation one next to each other, not below).
>
> Cheers,
>
>     Best regards,
>     Marcos Chavarría Teijeiro.
>
>
>     2013/6/5 Jiro Matsuzawa <jmatsuzawa gnome org
>     <mailto:jmatsuzawa gnome org>>
>     >
>     > Hi Marcos,
>     >
>     > Congratulations!
>     >
>     > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Nicolas Delvaux
>     > <contact nicolas-delvaux org
>     <mailto:contact nicolas-delvaux org>> wrote:
>     > > The "previewing" part could be useful for Gtranslator too.
>     > > You may want to provide integration with an existing
>     web-service like
>     > > Deckard[1] (which could be extended to suit your needs) or you
>     could
>     > > implement a similar feature directly in Gtranslator (this
>     means downloading
>     > > the right assets automatically from git).
>     > >
>     >
>     > I'm not sure if you should work on this during the GSoC, but as
>     Nicolas said,
>     > a ui preview function like Deckard would be helpful for translators.
>     >
>     > Good luck,
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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I've been using Virtaal for a while and I really like that the input 
boxes for editing an string it's right inside the list of available 
strings.

So, I think that the optimal UI design could be a two column design, 
one wider than the other. The wider column for the list of available 
strings like Virtaal has, and the other one for plugins.

For me the most important features that this new app has to have are:

- Ability to open gettext files
- Syntax highlighting for code
- Easy system for copying chunks of code and variables. And please, in 
the same way as Virtaal does, not how Gtr behaves now.
- Project manager: manager multiple po files in one project.
- Allow to use multiple TM, import/export them by using TMX files, 
activatable by project
- Allow to use multiple glossaries, import/export them by using TBX 
files, activatable by project
- Statistics: strings/words per file or project
- Plugin system

Less important, or for implement in the future:
- Pology integration
- Languagetools integration
- Pofilter integration
- Ability to edit and save different file types: xliff, tmx, ...

As someone said, GSoC is a very limited time project so, I think you 
should create a really good base that after GSoC you or others could 
extend easily. Documenting all the API to make more easier create 
plugins for Gtr.

Regards