Re: WebKit a11y hack fest?

[Marco Zehe <marco zehe googlemail com>]

Hi folks,

I just ran a few codetalks.org tests using VoiceOver and Safari 4 beta  
on Mac OS. Like David said, basic ARIA support is there, but it still  
has ways to go. Also, I believe for some of this to fully work,  
VoiceOver needs to be adapted as well. For example, more complex  
widgets like tab panels, trees, grids etc. don't get recognized.  
Sliders are recognizedhalf-way (the fact that they're horizontal is  
conveyed, but the slider is "unknown").

Marco

Am 25.02.2009 um 15:53 schrieb David Bolter:

> We could start a conversation on
> http://groups.google.ca/group/aria-ua-impl  (?)  -- but we might  
> want to
> have a time window in mind.
>
> Safari now has some ARIA support... does anyone know if that is  
> upstream?
>
> cheers,
> David
>
> Willie Walker wrote:
> > Thanks David!  Can you also get us in touch with the WebKit folks
> > working on WebKit a11y?
> >
> > Will
> >
> > David Bolter wrote:
> > > I can offer to be on a channel, depending on time/date.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > David
> > > Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > My idea situation is this:
> > > >
> > > > 1) On the WebKit side: people that know the WebKit a11y code and  
> > > > who
> > > > can also help us compile WebKit and run the sample WebKit apps.
> > > >
> > > > 2) On our side: people that can compile the WebKit code and who are
> > > > familiar with AT-SPI as well as what Gecko exposes via the AT-SPI.
> > > > Those involved should also be able to run accerciser, run Orca,  
> > > > etc.
> > > > We may also look to Eitan to help us with Speclenium.
> > > >
> > > > The main goals would be:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Get an idea of where WebKit a11y is at.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Help GNOME folks figure out how to build/test WebKit a11y.
> > > >
> > > > 3) Help train the WebKit folks on using a11y tools to test their
> > > > implementation and learn what is expected.  Ideally, the process  
> > > > will
> > > > result in the WebKit folks getting a better understanding of a11y  
> > > > and
> > > > getting more information to test/debug their a11y implementation.
> > > > This is the optimal way to help close the feedback loop, IMO.
> > > >
> > > > Will
> > > >
> > > > Bryen wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 08:48 -0500, Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > > > Hey All:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know we're working on a hack fest for GNOME a11y issues,  
> > > > > > which is
> > > > > > an awesome thing.  One thing that is getting horrible attention,
> > > > > > however, is WebKit accessibility.  In fact, accessibility is  
> > > > > > one of
> > > > > > the things preventing WebKit from being accepted into GNOME.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The WebKit folks have been making fixes, but we've not been very
> > > > > > responsive in testing them.  I wonder what people's thoughts are
> > > > > > about setting aside a day to try to coordinate time with the  
> > > > > > WebKit
> > > > > > folks to try to do a virtual hackfest for WebKit a11y  
> > > > > > specifically
> > > > > > for GNOME?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will
> > > > > > __
> > > > > I think this is a great idea, especially in showing that we want  
> > > > > to
> > > > > step
> > > > > up to the plate in resolving the impasse.
> > > > >
> > > > > One question I have.  What type of testing do you have in mind?   
> > > > > Who
> > > > > would be the testers and what would they need to have in order to
> > > > > provide good testing results?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think finding the proper testers for a11y stuff is always a
> > > > > challenge
> > > > > and I want to make sure we have adequate people around on that  
> > > > > day,
> > > > > whatever designated day we all settle upon.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bryen Yunashko
> > > > > > openSUSE Board Member
> > > > > > openSUSE-GNOME Team Member
> > > > > > GNOME-A11y Team Member
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